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That's true, but why would someone advertise for Adobe? The linked content goes to Adobe's page, on the topic, http://www.adobe.com/choice/?sdid=GXRVD http://ww

by jimminy 16y ago

That's true, but why would someone advertise for Adobe? The linked content goes to Adobe's page, on the topic, http://www.adobe.com/choice/?sdid=GXRVD http://www.adobe.com/choice/?sdid=GXRVD, as well as use the same ads as they used in the papers yesterday.

trun 16y ago
Good question, but this still seems fishy to me. Why would they do something that would so obviously backfire? And unless I misread something, the ad doesn't even work without Flash. If they're trying to target iPad / iPhone users deprived of Flash, why would you make an ad that doesn't work without Flash installed? This seems very amateur-ish.
- jimminy 16y ago
  They aren't targeting iPhone/iPad users by default, they are only going after "Mac" and "Opera" User-Agents, that also have Flash 8 or higher. They're calling out Apple through it's other core base, that can use Flash. The Flash also isn't in the add on Linux or Windows, unless of course you are using Opera. If you are using one of these systems or those without, or disabled, Flash, you only see a hyperlinked .gif.
eagleal 16y ago
> why would someone advertise for Adobe? There may be a lot of reasons like business disruption, and fun. Or may be just Adobe going nuts!
- jimminy 16y ago
  Also there was a comment, from an Adobe employee, than confirmed this was one of their projects, http://staynalive.com/articles/2010/05/14/adobe-and-google-sitting-in-a-tree-or-did-adobe-just-pwn-google/#comment-50394181 http://staynalive.com/articles/2010/05/14/adobe-and-google-s...
  - trun 16y ago
    Actually he confirmed that the Choice campaign was one of their projects and goes on to say that he doubted that Adobe would have wasted bandwidth on developing something so nefarious. At least that's my read of it. "For what it's worth, this project was done with a rather rapid turnaround, and I'd be surprised if there was bandwidth to innovate new ways of disrupting popup disruptors within it...."
    - isleyaardvark 16y ago
      The rapid turnaround actually makes me suspect Adobe. Are we to believe that somebody else came up with a fancy js/Flash combo exploit, and decided its first use should be a false flag ad for Adobe based on a day or two old campaign? I don't think Occam's razor is kind to Adobe.
      - jrockway 16y ago
        You are not taking into account the Apple fanbois that now want Adobe's blood because Flash works so well on Android. Adobe is sticking it to the One True Religion, and the followers aren't happy. (I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea. I personally hate Flash for technical reasons, but it really comes down to having choice. I don't use Flash and won't develop Flash apps... but you can do whatever you want.)
        SoftwareMaven 16y ago
        My experience has been that the Adobe fans are way more up in arms about this than the Apple fans. What does an Apple user hope to gain here? That is very unclear to me. The "true believers" have already put the war behind them; the Adobe warriors are the ones still fighting...

by jimminy 16y ago

trun 16y ago

Good question, but this still seems fishy to me. Why would they do something that would so obviously backfire? And unless I misread something, the ad doesn't even work without Flash. If they're trying to target iPad / iPhone users deprived of Flash, why would you make an ad that doesn't work without Flash installed? This seems very amateur-ish.

jimminy 16y ago
They aren't targeting iPhone/iPad users by default, they are only going after "Mac" and "Opera" User-Agents, that also have Flash 8 or higher. They're calling out Apple through it's other core base, that can use Flash. The Flash also isn't in the add on Linux or Windows, unless of course you are using Opera. If you are using one of these systems or those without, or disabled, Flash, you only see a hyperlinked .gif.

eagleal 16y ago

> why would someone advertise for Adobe? There may be a lot of reasons like business disruption, and fun. Or may be just Adobe going nuts!

jimminy 16y ago
Also there was a comment, from an Adobe employee, than confirmed this was one of their projects, http://staynalive.com/articles/2010/05/14/adobe-and-google-sitting-in-a-tree-or-did-adobe-just-pwn-google/#comment-50394181 http://staynalive.com/articles/2010/05/14/adobe-and-google-s...
- trun 16y ago
  Actually he confirmed that the Choice campaign was one of their projects and goes on to say that he doubted that Adobe would have wasted bandwidth on developing something so nefarious. At least that's my read of it. "For what it's worth, this project was done with a rather rapid turnaround, and I'd be surprised if there was bandwidth to innovate new ways of disrupting popup disruptors within it...."
  - isleyaardvark 16y ago
    The rapid turnaround actually makes me suspect Adobe. Are we to believe that somebody else came up with a fancy js/Flash combo exploit, and decided its first use should be a false flag ad for Adobe based on a day or two old campaign? I don't think Occam's razor is kind to Adobe.
    - jrockway 16y ago
      You are not taking into account the Apple fanbois that now want Adobe's blood because Flash works so well on Android. Adobe is sticking it to the One True Religion, and the followers aren't happy. (I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea. I personally hate Flash for technical reasons, but it really comes down to having choice. I don't use Flash and won't develop Flash apps... but you can do whatever you want.)
      - SoftwareMaven 16y ago
        My experience has been that the Adobe fans are way more up in arms about this than the Apple fans. What does an Apple user hope to gain here? That is very unclear to me. The "true believers" have already put the war behind them; the Adobe warriors are the ones still fighting...