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I'm on this site a lot, I know who it is and I understand why it made to the front page. It would help everyone (you included) if you try Google first whenever

I'm on this site a lot, I know who it is and I understand why it made to the front page. It would help everyone (you included) if you try Google first whenever someone (or something) you don't know is mentioned in a discussion. Even if you search for previous mentions of Hugo Barra on Hacker News, you'd learn that stories mentioning his leaving Xiaomi have made the frontpage in the last few days [1]. As a person who is on this site a lot, I'm surprised that you aren't familiar with him. Let's not even get into what is (or isn't) juvenile at this point. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13461387 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13461387

bshimmin 10y ago
Just think - the time you spent writing that snarky response could just as easily have been spent writing, for example, "He worked at Google from 2008-13 and had various prominent positions relating to Android, then he took a role as VP at Xiaomi where he played a big role in turning that outfit into a company you've heard of".
- brynjolf 10y ago
  Same time it would have took to Google it...
- whowalrus 10y ago
  > Just think - the time you spent writing that snarky response could just as easily have been spent writing... Is it better to feed fish to a person, or teach them to catch one? I admit that I was snarky as a response to the entitlement I sensed in his reply to the LMGTFY link. When I come across a discussion on Hacker News (or elsewhere) talking about things I don't know, I take a moment to Google first. Because asking "who is he, and why should I care?" (which is what the original question amounts to) isn't contributing to the discussion much either.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
    "Civil (and informative) comments like yours are why I come to HN." cough
    - whowalrus 10y ago
      Touche.
hueving 10y ago
A LMGTFY link is juvenile, full stop. It's not appropriate in any response. Condescension (which is what links to that site are) does not make a substantive comment. If you Google his name, you get an article that he was a VP at Google. Put bluntly, who cares if a VP at Google and VP at Xiami moved to Facebook? Explain why this is relevant and not the equivalent of the magazines in grocery stores discussion who the latest celebrities are sleeping with.
- whowalrus 10y ago
  > who cares if a VP at Google and VP at Xiami moved to Facebook? Xiaomi's global vice president Hugo Barra is leaving the company [1] - 124 points, 87 comments Hugo Barra is joining Facebook to lead virtual reality [2] - 99 points, 37 comments (as of the time of this posting) So I guess some people DO care. Feel free to read through the discussion on both stories as to why those people care. If you're asking me why YOU should care, I don't think I can answer that question. Also, sorry about the snark in my previous answer. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13461387 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13461387 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13488837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13488837
- jemfinch 10y ago
  > Condescension (which is what links to that site are) does not make a substantive comment. Neither does asking a question which is trivially answered by Googling. Why are you reserving your rage for the person trying to support community norms, and not for the person helplessly demanding that others explain to him what he could trivially discover on his own? > A LMGTFY link is juvenile, full stop. It's not appropriate in any response. It makes an important point that someone has asked a question beneath the threshold of questions which contribute positively to the community, and as such I'm happy that it exists, and happy when it's used. lmgtfy links are an act of community self-regulation, whether you think they're "douchey" or not, I'd rather have those links than your pointless screeds in opposition to them. If you must rage, rage against the person whose time is apparently so much more valuable than the other members of this site that he demands his information be spoonfed to him by humans. Rage against the question "Can someone provide some context as to who this is and why it's newsworthy?" when substituted for the search query "who is hugo barra", which provides more information faster.

bshimmin 10y ago

Just think - the time you spent writing that snarky response could just as easily have been spent writing, for example, "He worked at Google from 2008-13 and had various prominent positions relating to Android, then he took a role as VP at Xiaomi where he played a big role in turning that outfit into a company you've heard of".

brynjolf 10y ago
Same time it would have took to Google it...
whowalrus 10y ago
> Just think - the time you spent writing that snarky response could just as easily have been spent writing... Is it better to feed fish to a person, or teach them to catch one? I admit that I was snarky as a response to the entitlement I sensed in his reply to the LMGTFY link. When I come across a discussion on Hacker News (or elsewhere) talking about things I don't know, I take a moment to Google first. Because asking "who is he, and why should I care?" (which is what the original question amounts to) isn't contributing to the discussion much either.
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
  "Civil (and informative) comments like yours are why I come to HN." cough
  - whowalrus 10y ago
    Touche.

hueving 10y ago

A LMGTFY link is juvenile, full stop. It's not appropriate in any response. Condescension (which is what links to that site are) does not make a substantive comment. If you Google his name, you get an article that he was a VP at Google. Put bluntly, who cares if a VP at Google and VP at Xiami moved to Facebook? Explain why this is relevant and not the equivalent of the magazines in grocery stores discussion who the latest celebrities are sleeping with.

whowalrus 10y ago
> who cares if a VP at Google and VP at Xiami moved to Facebook? Xiaomi's global vice president Hugo Barra is leaving the company [1] - 124 points, 87 comments Hugo Barra is joining Facebook to lead virtual reality [2] - 99 points, 37 comments (as of the time of this posting) So I guess some people DO care. Feel free to read through the discussion on both stories as to why those people care. If you're asking me why YOU should care, I don't think I can answer that question. Also, sorry about the snark in my previous answer. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13461387 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13461387 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13488837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13488837
jemfinch 10y ago
> Condescension (which is what links to that site are) does not make a substantive comment. Neither does asking a question which is trivially answered by Googling. Why are you reserving your rage for the person trying to support community norms, and not for the person helplessly demanding that others explain to him what he could trivially discover on his own? > A LMGTFY link is juvenile, full stop. It's not appropriate in any response. It makes an important point that someone has asked a question beneath the threshold of questions which contribute positively to the community, and as such I'm happy that it exists, and happy when it's used. lmgtfy links are an act of community self-regulation, whether you think they're "douchey" or not, I'd rather have those links than your pointless screeds in opposition to them. If you must rage, rage against the person whose time is apparently so much more valuable than the other members of this site that he demands his information be spoonfed to him by humans. Rage against the question "Can someone provide some context as to who this is and why it's newsworthy?" when substituted for the search query "who is hugo barra", which provides more information faster.