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This is completely unacceptable, and truly crosses the line. I have many Iranian coworkers and friends here in the bay area. The thought of branding them as ter

This is completely unacceptable, and truly crosses the line. I have many Iranian coworkers and friends here in the bay area. The thought of branding them as terrorists and revoking their work or student visas is absolutely unbelievable. I think the Trump administration and the GOP are in for a rude awakening if they think these policies are going to stand.

danenania 10y ago
"I think the Trump administration and the GOP are in for a rude awakening if they think these policies are going to stand." I hope you're right, but at least for the next 2 years, who/what is going to stop them?
- agumonkey 10y ago
  Not once in history has there been a quick office reboot ? No way to amend the constitution, to change the planning ? I'm counting days until impeachment, seriously.
- aphextron 10y ago
  >I hope you're right, but at least for the next 2 years, who/what is going to stop them? The courts. It's our only option. There are multiple pending lawsuits against Trump already. A civil rights group filed suit against him on day one for breaching the emoluments clause of the constitution. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/liberal-watchdog-group-sues-trump-alleging-he-violated-constitutional-ban/2017/01/22/5e8b35c2-e113-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/liberal-watchdog-gro...
helpfulanon 10y ago
Trump's base right now are people who have never met an Iranian, and would probably be quite happy to see your coworkers sent to Guantanamo. Trump's policies will stand because his base stands by them, and because the GOP rank-and-file fear Trump, and his people in the midterm elections. If you want to do something, use your political awakening to help change some minds. At both the top and bottom of the power chain, doesn't matter. Steer the conversation
- olalonde 10y ago
  I think that's a naive view of Trump "supporters". For instance, it seems like Iranian-Americans were split on Clinton v. Trump [0][1]. I've also talked to quite a few people who voted for Trump but do not agree with his stance on borders or immigration. Finally, depicting all the people who voted for Trump as ignorant rednecks is probably not conductive to dialogue. [0] http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/10/ls-little-persia-iranian-americans-split-clinton-v-trump/88431342/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/0... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13489227 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13489227
  - helpfulanon 10y ago
    I really truly do not care at all about the sensitivities of Trump supporters at this point.
    - guildwriter 10y ago
      Sentiments like yours do not help the current situation where everyone is talking past each other. Demonizing and labeling people like others is not the solution. Characterizing the motivations of 60+ million people as racist is the epitome of mental weakness. How do you expect to solve xenophobic behavior when you are employing the exact same mental processes? All you are doing is perpetuating the cycle of hatred. Empathy takes time and effort, especially in an age where we don't have to exercise it at all. The easy path is to disregard those we disagree with in order to preserve our own sense of moral righteousness.
      - moomin 10y ago
        People have been racist throughout history. The majority of people. When did the majority suddenly stop? There's no mental weakness involved in describing things as they are. In practice, this isn't the case. Racism just became something to be ashamed of, so now we can't discuss racism openly for fear of offending racists. At least the "rednecks" are honest about it. And I hate to tell you, they're not interested in dialogue. They've got enough numbers, districting advantages and voter suppression laws that they don't care what you think.
zouhair 10y ago
You never caring about politics is what ultimately put Trump in office.

danenania 10y ago

"I think the Trump administration and the GOP are in for a rude awakening if they think these policies are going to stand." I hope you're right, but at least for the next 2 years, who/what is going to stop them?

agumonkey 10y ago
Not once in history has there been a quick office reboot ? No way to amend the constitution, to change the planning ? I'm counting days until impeachment, seriously.
aphextron 10y ago
>I hope you're right, but at least for the next 2 years, who/what is going to stop them? The courts. It's our only option. There are multiple pending lawsuits against Trump already. A civil rights group filed suit against him on day one for breaching the emoluments clause of the constitution. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/liberal-watchdog-group-sues-trump-alleging-he-violated-constitutional-ban/2017/01/22/5e8b35c2-e113-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/liberal-watchdog-gro...

helpfulanon 10y ago

Trump's base right now are people who have never met an Iranian, and would probably be quite happy to see your coworkers sent to Guantanamo. Trump's policies will stand because his base stands by them, and because the GOP rank-and-file fear Trump, and his people in the midterm elections. If you want to do something, use your political awakening to help change some minds. At both the top and bottom of the power chain, doesn't matter. Steer the conversation

olalonde 10y ago
I think that's a naive view of Trump "supporters". For instance, it seems like Iranian-Americans were split on Clinton v. Trump [0][1]. I've also talked to quite a few people who voted for Trump but do not agree with his stance on borders or immigration. Finally, depicting all the people who voted for Trump as ignorant rednecks is probably not conductive to dialogue. [0] http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/10/ls-little-persia-iranian-americans-split-clinton-v-trump/88431342/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/0... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13489227 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13489227
- helpfulanon 10y ago
  I really truly do not care at all about the sensitivities of Trump supporters at this point.
  - guildwriter 10y ago
    Sentiments like yours do not help the current situation where everyone is talking past each other. Demonizing and labeling people like others is not the solution. Characterizing the motivations of 60+ million people as racist is the epitome of mental weakness. How do you expect to solve xenophobic behavior when you are employing the exact same mental processes? All you are doing is perpetuating the cycle of hatred. Empathy takes time and effort, especially in an age where we don't have to exercise it at all. The easy path is to disregard those we disagree with in order to preserve our own sense of moral righteousness.
    - moomin 10y ago
      People have been racist throughout history. The majority of people. When did the majority suddenly stop? There's no mental weakness involved in describing things as they are. In practice, this isn't the case. Racism just became something to be ashamed of, so now we can't discuss racism openly for fear of offending racists. At least the "rednecks" are honest about it. And I hate to tell you, they're not interested in dialogue. They've got enough numbers, districting advantages and voter suppression laws that they don't care what you think.

zouhair 10y ago

You never caring about politics is what ultimately put Trump in office.