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Wow. What a seriously damaging email. Has this guy not heard of lunch?

by fleitz 17y ago

potatolicious 17y ago
This is Gizmodo we're talking about - the depth of their talents include things like griefing a conference by walking around with universal remotes turning people's presentation screens off, and inserting puns into technology news. Extortion and coercion are clearly not their strength, though they seemed to think it was :)
- pwhelan 17y ago
  I can't wait for them to do a story on Blackwater/Xe.
  - CamperBob 17y ago
    I'd rather have Blackwater pissed at me than Jobs. I can deal with being gunned down in an alley by mercenaries, but the idea of landing on Jobs's personal shit list is just plain scary. There's a great line in The Usual Suspects: "How do you shoot the devil in the back? What if you miss?" Lam must have thought that was a rhetorical question when he wrote that email. I'm sure he thinks different now.
    - infinite8s 17y ago
      Yeah, because being gunned down in an alleyway is much better than being indicted on counts of grand larceny and trade secret appropriation. Geez, have some perspective!!
- anigbrowl 17y ago
  It does seem as if they relied on their wide readership as insurance against legal trouble, to the point of making multiple public postings undermining their own (legal) position. I wonder whether the investigation continues, or whether Apple have requested the DA's office not to file charges and the DA has agreed. As prosecutors objected to the unsealing of the warrant, I guess the former.
- mirkules 17y ago
  "Extortion and coercion are clearly not their strength, though they seemed to think it was :)" They should look it up in the dictionary. It's right next to money-laundering :)
- briansmith 17y ago
  There was nothing extortive or coercive about the email. In the email, Gizmodo didn't ask for any compensation. And, they didn't make any threats. The email boils down to "Give us an official confirmation that the phone is yours" and complaints about their relationship with Apple. That's it. In particular, they didn't even say that they wouldn't return the phone if they didn't get an official confirmation.
  - Pheter 17y ago
    "They didn't even say that they wouldn't return the phone if they didn't get an official confirmation." That is a ridiculous statement. It is clearly implied. Furthermore, 'do as we say and you can have your property back' IS coercion. They were forcing Apple to behave in a way that they didn't want to.
    - briansmith 17y ago
      It's very hard to argue anything is "clearly implied," because the reader's bias going into the reading has a big effect on how they interpret what is implied. And, he definitely didn't say anything like "do as we say and you can have your property back." He said he wants Apple to make it clear that it is their phone and that it wasn't a marketing stunt.
      - Pheter 17y ago
        I copied that directly from your comment which you have since edited. Why don't you stop being deceptive? Edit: Wow, you just edited that comment too. If you are going to edit your comments so heavily could you please leave what you originally said at the top of the message.
        briansmith 17y ago
        I did edit my comment but I'm pretty sure I didn't say "do as we say" because that is not what I think of the situation. FWIW, it is normal for me to go through a couple drafts of my comments on any topic. If you look at my posts on Reddit you will see they almost all have a "*" that shows they were edited, for the same reason. I don't know why some people are so quick to try to find malicious intent in everything.
hristov 17y ago
I doubt Jobs would have lunch with him.

Wow. What a seriously damaging email. Has this guy not heard of lunch?

by fleitz 17y ago

Wow. What a seriously damaging email. Has this guy not heard of lunch?

This is Gizmodo we're talking about - the depth of their talents include things like griefing a conference by walking around with universal remotes turning people's presentation screens off, and inserting puns into technology news. Extortion and coercion are clearly not their strength, though they seemed to think it was :)

pwhelan 17y ago
I can't wait for them to do a story on Blackwater/Xe.
- CamperBob 17y ago
  I'd rather have Blackwater pissed at me than Jobs. I can deal with being gunned down in an alley by mercenaries, but the idea of landing on Jobs's personal shit list is just plain scary. There's a great line in The Usual Suspects: "How do you shoot the devil in the back? What if you miss?" Lam must have thought that was a rhetorical question when he wrote that email. I'm sure he thinks different now.
  - infinite8s 17y ago
    Yeah, because being gunned down in an alleyway is much better than being indicted on counts of grand larceny and trade secret appropriation. Geez, have some perspective!!
anigbrowl 17y ago
It does seem as if they relied on their wide readership as insurance against legal trouble, to the point of making multiple public postings undermining their own (legal) position. I wonder whether the investigation continues, or whether Apple have requested the DA's office not to file charges and the DA has agreed. As prosecutors objected to the unsealing of the warrant, I guess the former.
mirkules 17y ago
"Extortion and coercion are clearly not their strength, though they seemed to think it was :)" They should look it up in the dictionary. It's right next to money-laundering :)
briansmith 17y ago
There was nothing extortive or coercive about the email. In the email, Gizmodo didn't ask for any compensation. And, they didn't make any threats. The email boils down to "Give us an official confirmation that the phone is yours" and complaints about their relationship with Apple. That's it. In particular, they didn't even say that they wouldn't return the phone if they didn't get an official confirmation.
- Pheter 17y ago
  "They didn't even say that they wouldn't return the phone if they didn't get an official confirmation." That is a ridiculous statement. It is clearly implied. Furthermore, 'do as we say and you can have your property back' IS coercion. They were forcing Apple to behave in a way that they didn't want to.
  - briansmith 17y ago
    It's very hard to argue anything is "clearly implied," because the reader's bias going into the reading has a big effect on how they interpret what is implied. And, he definitely didn't say anything like "do as we say and you can have your property back." He said he wants Apple to make it clear that it is their phone and that it wasn't a marketing stunt.
    - Pheter 17y ago
      I copied that directly from your comment which you have since edited. Why don't you stop being deceptive? Edit: Wow, you just edited that comment too. If you are going to edit your comments so heavily could you please leave what you originally said at the top of the message.
      - briansmith 17y ago
        I did edit my comment but I'm pretty sure I didn't say "do as we say" because that is not what I think of the situation. FWIW, it is normal for me to go through a couple drafts of my comments on any topic. If you look at my posts on Reddit you will see they almost all have a "*" that shows they were edited, for the same reason. I don't know why some people are so quick to try to find malicious intent in everything.

hristov 17y ago

I doubt Jobs would have lunch with him.