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> Invest in Thunderbird again and fix the client side of email - because messaging is just as important as the web and we are losing to closed competitors hard
by kbd 10y ago
> Invest in Thunderbird again and fix the client side of email - because messaging is just as important as the web and we are losing to closed competitors hard and fast there.
I was right with you until Thunderbird. I look at Thunderbird as one of Mozilla's many distractions. We don't need another open source desktop email client at the expense of the browser.
So long as we have a secure browser, there are others who can provide secure email services with a web client.
- pjmlp 10y ago> web client. No thanks. I will keep using Thunderbird as long as I can.
- kbd 10y agoTo each their own. The point remains that this is not a necessary project for Mozilla to take on, nor was it a good use of resources for them.
- hendersoon 10y agoYou don't use Thunderbird, so you don't feel they should work on it. Gotcha. I do use it, so I do.
- kbd 10y ago> You don't use Thunderbird, so you don't feel they should work on it. Gotcha. Not going to argue against a strawman. I've made my point clearly already.
- freehunter 10y agoI'm not the guy you're arguing with but this is literally the argument you're making. You're saying that Thunderbird is not necessary. That's an opinion. You likely hold this opinion because you don't use it. If you did use Thunderbird, you may feel differently. If you used Thunderbird and it shut down, you'd feel sad. You'd want them to keep working on it. I say working on the I-5 freeway is a waste of time, because I've never driven on it. But thousands of other people do. And they probably feel that it's an important road in their lives. It's not a straw man, it's the other side of your argument. You just disagree. That doesn't make it a straw man.
- cpeterso 10y agoPlus Thunderbird is a huge C++ project. It seems like a modern desktop mail client could be built more quickly using Electron. There are already JavaScript libraries for IMAP. Thunderbird could be innovating on new client features instead of trying to keep up with the treadmill of Gecko C++ changes.
- apatters 10y agoWhile I would normally agree, this is the one "side project" I think they should have kept. We really need an imap5 or some standard which addresses the modern problems with email. Who else is going to represent the client perspective and maintain the reference client implementation without being a corporate shill?
- spiffytech 10y agoFastmail's JMAP sounds like a promising IMAP4 successor. I'd love to see it become widely implemented.