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Just like Wikimedia they have been kidnapped by political activist (e.g. for a free web etc.) I'm not saying this isn't important, but they confused this to be

Just like Wikimedia they have been kidnapped by political activist (e.g. for a free web etc.) I'm not saying this isn't important, but they confused this to be their core mission and forgot where the money really is coming from. Go to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ now and see where the browser ranks on that page. Political activism (free internet) is first. "Introducing Our New Mozilla Identity." takes the second most screen estate. Scrolling two pages down there is Firefox. If it's like many companies, then the people who made these decisions and are responsible for the sad state have already moved on. (I'm currently a Firefox user and have been a user since the Netscape/Mosaic days with some Chrome usage over the years)

pestaa 10y ago
It's not unexpected that a political view is formed around a project once it outgrows the state of "only software or content". Though it's a first time I hear about their abuse. Where can I learn more about the impact of activist agenda on these two projects?
- _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
  1. The impact on Wikipedia is widely discussed: Huge donation drives with only the smallest amount of money going to Wikipedia development and evolution. Wikipedia could be much much more if the money would have been spend on Wikipedia instead of a myriad of other things. 2. The impact to Firefox: Slow browser that is way behind Chrome concerning features, or as in numbers: Lost the leading position in browser market share with no plan to regain the leading position again.
kbrosnan 10y ago
Mozilla is a non-profit. Mozilla has been publicly committed to an open and free internet since 2007 when the Mozilla Manifesto was introduced. Here is the earliest version captured by Archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20080812000547/http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto https://web.archive.org/web/20080812000547/http://www.mozill... There is a download button on the upper right corner of the page.
- _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
  1. The download button takes about a 1/50th of the screen estate on the page. 2. In which way does focusing on Firefox not support an 'open and free internet manifesto' or is at odds with such an manifesto?

pestaa 10y ago

It's not unexpected that a political view is formed around a project once it outgrows the state of "only software or content". Though it's a first time I hear about their abuse. Where can I learn more about the impact of activist agenda on these two projects?

_Codemonkeyism 10y ago
1. The impact on Wikipedia is widely discussed: Huge donation drives with only the smallest amount of money going to Wikipedia development and evolution. Wikipedia could be much much more if the money would have been spend on Wikipedia instead of a myriad of other things. 2. The impact to Firefox: Slow browser that is way behind Chrome concerning features, or as in numbers: Lost the leading position in browser market share with no plan to regain the leading position again.

kbrosnan 10y ago

Mozilla is a non-profit. Mozilla has been publicly committed to an open and free internet since 2007 when the Mozilla Manifesto was introduced. Here is the earliest version captured by Archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20080812000547/http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto https://web.archive.org/web/20080812000547/http://www.mozill... There is a download button on the upper right corner of the page.

_Codemonkeyism 10y ago
1. The download button takes about a 1/50th of the screen estate on the page. 2. In which way does focusing on Firefox not support an 'open and free internet manifesto' or is at odds with such an manifesto?