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This is why we need a platform for these models asap. I would totally download this app today and use it regardless of what the FDA thinks.

wakkaflokka 10y ago
I'd love that. I'm still irritated that the FDA forced 23andme to remove the Alzheimer's/Parkinson's report (though I completely understand why). Now I have to run all my 23andme data through promethease, which is significantly more complicated to understand.
komali2 10y ago
Are you sure about that? Playing devil's advocate here, we have plenty of examples of scientists jumping the gun without being peer reviewed or going through a rigorous follow up testing progress, especially when it comes to medicine. The alzheimer's 60FPS blinking light example is pretty good - some scientists got it working on mice, but we don't know any potential side effects it could have on humans. Maybe none and that'd be great! Maybe it causes schizophrenia, who knows? We have no way of knowing yet! Just very very educated guesses. I say when it comes to medicine, err on the side of caution. Obviously a diagnosis app isn't too dangerous - worse case scenario the app gives you a positive diagnosis, so you go into the doctor's, they take a sample, and find the growth to not be cancerous. No harm, no foul. But other ideas could be more dangerous.
- fpgaminer 10y ago
  Worst case scenario would be giving a false negative, wouldn't it? And that's the danger, not a false positive (though false positives may lead to higher health costs due to increased doctor visits).
  - mrob 10y ago
    Removing moles isn't risk free. It's minor surgery but it's still surgery, and any surgery carries risk of infection. With increasing prevalence of antibiotic resistance this is a serious concern.
- crusso 10y ago
  As you say, it's a diagnosis app. It shouldn't be judged on the same slippery slope as a treatment technique.
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wakkaflokka 10y ago

I'd love that. I'm still irritated that the FDA forced 23andme to remove the Alzheimer's/Parkinson's report (though I completely understand why). Now I have to run all my 23andme data through promethease, which is significantly more complicated to understand.

komali2 10y ago

Are you sure about that? Playing devil's advocate here, we have plenty of examples of scientists jumping the gun without being peer reviewed or going through a rigorous follow up testing progress, especially when it comes to medicine. The alzheimer's 60FPS blinking light example is pretty good - some scientists got it working on mice, but we don't know any potential side effects it could have on humans. Maybe none and that'd be great! Maybe it causes schizophrenia, who knows? We have no way of knowing yet! Just very very educated guesses. I say when it comes to medicine, err on the side of caution. Obviously a diagnosis app isn't too dangerous - worse case scenario the app gives you a positive diagnosis, so you go into the doctor's, they take a sample, and find the growth to not be cancerous. No harm, no foul. But other ideas could be more dangerous.

fpgaminer 10y ago
Worst case scenario would be giving a false negative, wouldn't it? And that's the danger, not a false positive (though false positives may lead to higher health costs due to increased doctor visits).
- mrob 10y ago
  Removing moles isn't risk free. It's minor surgery but it's still surgery, and any surgery carries risk of infection. With increasing prevalence of antibiotic resistance this is a serious concern.
crusso 10y ago
As you say, it's a diagnosis app. It shouldn't be judged on the same slippery slope as a treatment technique.
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