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I'm always afraid of investing a lot of time into this type of frameworks and then having the rug pulled from under me. Most of the time I spent learning angula

by samkite 10y ago

I'm always afraid of investing a lot of time into this type of frameworks and then having the rug pulled from under me. Most of the time I spent learning angular ended up being a waste of time and I'm still scarred from then. Also that logo looks familiar?

alexkavon 10y ago
You're not wrong. I've worked with Ionic v1 a fair amount. The framework is good for mockups and prototypes but nothing more. What ends up happening, as you app grows to include notifications, deep linking, etc, is you need to rely on more and more hacky thirdparty solutions. These days I either code natively or use Xamarin.
- jthoms1 10y ago
  Ionic2 is quite a bit different. In my opinion it scales really well especially with Typescript. Most of features that would have required thirdparty solutions are baked into ionic-native.
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- EugeneOZ 10y ago
  You are wrong. I have few mobile apps, made with Ionic and Ionic 2, some have been used on warehouse as part of huge WMS (to scan items and manage whole business process of warehouse worker), some were apps for business as part of CRM (with geolocation, maps and handwritten signatures). And every time product owners were very satisfied with the result and with speed of development. Ionic 1 had too hacky API and not great performance, but Ionic 2 is much more mature in both of these fields.
  - alexkavon 10y ago
    I don't believe I ever mentioned ionic v2... I don't doubt v2 brought many improvements. However you just can't beat the power of not operating in a Webview.
    - timrichard 10y ago
      However, Webviews do give you a very predictable container to target. If you use something like Intel Crosswalk [1] as part of your project for Android, you can bundle a recent Chromium webview to much older devices. And Flexbox is very well suited to solve phone/phablet/tablet layout problems. [1] https://crosswalk-project.org/ https://crosswalk-project.org/
      - pikzen 10y ago
        Because people seemed to love 80MB Chrome runtimes being bundled with terrible Electron applications on the desktop, Crosswalk allows you to bundle 40MB of chromium for your terrible application on Android.
SparkyMcUnicorn 10y ago
> Also that logo looks familiar? Hydrogen? https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrogen&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrogen&tbm=isch
wgx 10y ago
> Also that logo looks familiar? Dr Manhattan? http://imgur.com/a/EQNya http://imgur.com/a/EQNya
- samkite 10y ago
  jesus. that's it. watched the movie 2 weeks ago, his face must still be in my RAM
skylark 10y ago
Curious why you think it was a waste of time. You can still make perfectly functional products using Angular 1, and most jobs (at least in the bay area) won't look down on you if you're not fluent in their framework of choice - they'll expect you to learn it on the job.

by samkite 10y ago

alexkavon 10y ago

You're not wrong. I've worked with Ionic v1 a fair amount. The framework is good for mockups and prototypes but nothing more. What ends up happening, as you app grows to include notifications, deep linking, etc, is you need to rely on more and more hacky thirdparty solutions. These days I either code natively or use Xamarin.

jthoms1 10y ago
Ionic2 is quite a bit different. In my opinion it scales really well especially with Typescript. Most of features that would have required thirdparty solutions are baked into ionic-native.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
EugeneOZ 10y ago
You are wrong. I have few mobile apps, made with Ionic and Ionic 2, some have been used on warehouse as part of huge WMS (to scan items and manage whole business process of warehouse worker), some were apps for business as part of CRM (with geolocation, maps and handwritten signatures). And every time product owners were very satisfied with the result and with speed of development. Ionic 1 had too hacky API and not great performance, but Ionic 2 is much more mature in both of these fields.
- alexkavon 10y ago
  I don't believe I ever mentioned ionic v2... I don't doubt v2 brought many improvements. However you just can't beat the power of not operating in a Webview.
  - timrichard 10y ago
    However, Webviews do give you a very predictable container to target. If you use something like Intel Crosswalk [1] as part of your project for Android, you can bundle a recent Chromium webview to much older devices. And Flexbox is very well suited to solve phone/phablet/tablet layout problems. [1] https://crosswalk-project.org/ https://crosswalk-project.org/
    - pikzen 10y ago
      Because people seemed to love 80MB Chrome runtimes being bundled with terrible Electron applications on the desktop, Crosswalk allows you to bundle 40MB of chromium for your terrible application on Android.

SparkyMcUnicorn 10y ago

> Also that logo looks familiar? Hydrogen? https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrogen&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrogen&tbm=isch

wgx 10y ago

> Also that logo looks familiar? Dr Manhattan? http://imgur.com/a/EQNya http://imgur.com/a/EQNya

samkite 10y ago
jesus. that's it. watched the movie 2 weeks ago, his face must still be in my RAM

skylark 10y ago

Curious why you think it was a waste of time. You can still make perfectly functional products using Angular 1, and most jobs (at least in the bay area) won't look down on you if you're not fluent in their framework of choice - they'll expect you to learn it on the job.