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This post comes at a very interesting time. I'm a non-developer. I did graduate with a computing science degree, but really struggled getting to grips with prog

This post comes at a very interesting time. I'm a non-developer. I did graduate with a computing science degree, but really struggled getting to grips with programming and software development, so when i left uni i never created any of my own apps. I did retain some simple software development principles knowledge however. But recently, i've been very keen to get involved in helping developers on my team improve the user experience of our apps, which is why i started looking into cappuccino. Atlas and Cappuccino, I have to say are great as frameworks, but only for people with Macs. So, since then i've been heavily looking into jQuery and found it to be great for helping me create good user experiences, and with the addition of AJAX things tend to get very interesting. I'm in no position to comment on what i think to future is since im so new to development, but from where im standing and certainly for someone that is just entering the fore, i'm someone that has been through these exact set of questions in the last few weeks, and came to a very similar conclusion through my own trial and error.

bprater 16y ago
jQuery is a good place to start. Getting into frameworks before you have some fundamental understanding of programming can make the learning curve a bit too steep. jQuery is shallow enough that you can get a ton of work done with it, but still understandable enough that you can dive into it's source and fidget your way through it.
asnyder 16y ago
You should really try NOLOH (http://www.noloh.com http://www.noloh.com). I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the co-founders, but because we've found it to be the easiest way to create sophisticated websites, and WebApps easily. Every year we get a batch of interns from high schools and colleges with no real programming experience, but can start writing full applications without any training whatsoever. As part of the application process we require they write a TicTacToe application in our free hosted sandboxes and 9/10 times the applicant has no issue and replies with a link to their app. We don't guide them, train them, or instruct them in any way beforehand. Watch our recent presentation from Confoo and see for yourself, http://vimeo.com/10106797 http://vimeo.com/10106797. It really is that easy.
- danmonterey 16y ago
  I've used NOLOH on a dozen projects, some very large a few modest and a few experimental and small. As someone who has a deep background in OO programming and design and who came to NOLOH with a strong distaste for languages with a C-like syntax (but still a JavaScript fan; go figure), I was not prepared either to enjoy or to appreciate NOLOH as much as I have come to do. It's the first tool I reach for when building Web-based software these days. I'm not affiliated with NOLOH,but I am a fan, I know its founder through my work with his technology, and I'm always happy to chat about it with interested people.
- krmmalik 16y ago
  Thanks! I'll be sure to check it out.
- inklesspen 16y ago
  Another proprietary web framework sigh
  - asnyder 16y ago
    I don't understand the negative feelings towards proprietary web frameworks. We offer a product that solves a problem. We've been working at it for 6 years, have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into R&D, and have numerous free options for non-commercial projects, including free educational, non-profit, developer, and open source project licenses. Compared to our competitors we're leaps and bounds ahead of them technologically, and we undercut them on price significantly. Really, what more can we do? Do you not use a tool because there's a company behind it providing support, up to date documentation, and other resources? We even have a clause that says if anything should happen to us, all the source is opened. It's unsettling that many developers who charge for their own services and products let out a sigh when other developers decide to charge for their services and products.

bprater 16y ago

jQuery is a good place to start. Getting into frameworks before you have some fundamental understanding of programming can make the learning curve a bit too steep. jQuery is shallow enough that you can get a ton of work done with it, but still understandable enough that you can dive into it's source and fidget your way through it.

asnyder 16y ago

You should really try NOLOH (http://www.noloh.com http://www.noloh.com). I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the co-founders, but because we've found it to be the easiest way to create sophisticated websites, and WebApps easily. Every year we get a batch of interns from high schools and colleges with no real programming experience, but can start writing full applications without any training whatsoever. As part of the application process we require they write a TicTacToe application in our free hosted sandboxes and 9/10 times the applicant has no issue and replies with a link to their app. We don't guide them, train them, or instruct them in any way beforehand. Watch our recent presentation from Confoo and see for yourself, http://vimeo.com/10106797 http://vimeo.com/10106797. It really is that easy.

danmonterey 16y ago
I've used NOLOH on a dozen projects, some very large a few modest and a few experimental and small. As someone who has a deep background in OO programming and design and who came to NOLOH with a strong distaste for languages with a C-like syntax (but still a JavaScript fan; go figure), I was not prepared either to enjoy or to appreciate NOLOH as much as I have come to do. It's the first tool I reach for when building Web-based software these days. I'm not affiliated with NOLOH,but I am a fan, I know its founder through my work with his technology, and I'm always happy to chat about it with interested people.
krmmalik 16y ago
Thanks! I'll be sure to check it out.
inklesspen 16y ago
Another proprietary web framework sigh
- asnyder 16y ago
  I don't understand the negative feelings towards proprietary web frameworks. We offer a product that solves a problem. We've been working at it for 6 years, have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into R&D, and have numerous free options for non-commercial projects, including free educational, non-profit, developer, and open source project licenses. Compared to our competitors we're leaps and bounds ahead of them technologically, and we undercut them on price significantly. Really, what more can we do? Do you not use a tool because there's a company behind it providing support, up to date documentation, and other resources? We even have a clause that says if anything should happen to us, all the source is opened. It's unsettling that many developers who charge for their own services and products let out a sigh when other developers decide to charge for their services and products.