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how many .net and .org websites have you launched? A .com gets a HUGE bonus over those. A .com with 0 link building will almost always start off on page 1 or 2

by vaksel 16y ago

how many .net and .org websites have you launched? A .com gets a HUGE bonus over those. A .com with 0 link building will almost always start off on page 1 or 2. Even for a competitive keyword, at worst you are looking at page 3. A .net or .org will usually start off on page 40. After 2-3 weeks of link building, with a .com you are looking at a top 3 position. With a .org, after 2-3 weeks of link building you'll be lucky to climb up to page 2. A .com will always be king, it's the most valuable domain name for a reason.

jasonkester 16y ago
Here's a quick disproof of your hypothesis. Find travelblog.com (singular) on the first page of this query: http://www.google.com/search?q=travel+blog http://www.google.com/search?q=travel+blog Now find travelblog.org on that page.
- vaksel 16y ago
  bad example, the travelblog.com is a british site. Go search for travelblog on google.co.uk, and it's in the top 3 position. And sure travelblog.org is #1 there too, but the .org is a PR6 website, while the .com is a PR4 website. That's orders of magnitude higher.
  - jasonkester 16y ago
    No, it's a good example, for all the reasons you state. The fact that a .com often ranks higher than its .org equivalent has nothing to do with it being a .com, but rather that its owners have done a better job of building it into a relevant site. You're seeing correlation, but not causation. As you correctly observe, PageRank and other SEO factors are the important thing. Here are a few more examples of the same principle in action: http://www.google.com/search?q=wikipedia http://www.google.com/search?q=wikipedia http://www.google.com/search?q=slashdot http://www.google.com/search?q=slashdot http://www.google.com/search?q=php http://www.google.com/search?q=php
    - vaksel 16y ago
      it has everything to do with a .com. Same SEO methods on a .com and .net, will always have .com beating out the .net. All those examples you give, there is no competition, those are BRANDS that choose to reside on a .net/.org domains, there is no wikipedia.com trying to outrank the .org. We are not talking about brands here. We are talking about keyword centric domains that are targeting keywords people actually search for. So to give you an example, you should be trying to find a bluewidgets.org that outranks a bluewidgets.com, where bluewidgets.org has the same or lower page rank.
      - inerte 16y ago
        You are right, do not mind the downmods. Simple experiment, buy these three domains: hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.com hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.org hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.net Link them on a single page somewhere, wait Google to index it, and search for "hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf". What tld will Google show first? But if the .org or .net have a couple good links from somewhere else, they will rank higher. So, you're right on your pure domain keyword ranking, but I am from the opinion that it doesn't matter if you're going to use additional SEO techniques.
      - jasonkester 16y ago
        To whoever is downmodding this guy: Please stop. His post is neither inflammatory or offensive. If you disagree with what he's said, say so in a comment (with explanation as to why). Don't downvote just because you disagree.
ankeshk 16y ago
I used to buy celebrity domain names and create "fan" pages. And this is not true. .com .net .org worked equally well in getting ranked for the keywords in that domain. A lot more people buy .com domains. So we see a lot more .com rankings higher up in the search engines. But as far as my personal tests and experiences show, keyword.org will work as well as keyword.com in getting ranked if the same amount of link building is done for both of them. The only downside of a .org is - if you plan to sell the site or the domain, a .org gets a lower price than a .com. But from search engine point of view, both work equally well.
mistermann 16y ago
No offense, but you just don't know what you're talking about mate.

by vaksel 16y ago

jasonkester 16y ago

Here's a quick disproof of your hypothesis. Find travelblog.com (singular) on the first page of this query: http://www.google.com/search?q=travel+blog http://www.google.com/search?q=travel+blog Now find travelblog.org on that page.

vaksel 16y ago
bad example, the travelblog.com is a british site. Go search for travelblog on google.co.uk, and it's in the top 3 position. And sure travelblog.org is #1 there too, but the .org is a PR6 website, while the .com is a PR4 website. That's orders of magnitude higher.
- jasonkester 16y ago
  No, it's a good example, for all the reasons you state. The fact that a .com often ranks higher than its .org equivalent has nothing to do with it being a .com, but rather that its owners have done a better job of building it into a relevant site. You're seeing correlation, but not causation. As you correctly observe, PageRank and other SEO factors are the important thing. Here are a few more examples of the same principle in action: http://www.google.com/search?q=wikipedia http://www.google.com/search?q=wikipedia http://www.google.com/search?q=slashdot http://www.google.com/search?q=slashdot http://www.google.com/search?q=php http://www.google.com/search?q=php
  - vaksel 16y ago
    it has everything to do with a .com. Same SEO methods on a .com and .net, will always have .com beating out the .net. All those examples you give, there is no competition, those are BRANDS that choose to reside on a .net/.org domains, there is no wikipedia.com trying to outrank the .org. We are not talking about brands here. We are talking about keyword centric domains that are targeting keywords people actually search for. So to give you an example, you should be trying to find a bluewidgets.org that outranks a bluewidgets.com, where bluewidgets.org has the same or lower page rank.
    - inerte 16y ago
      You are right, do not mind the downmods. Simple experiment, buy these three domains: hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.com hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.org hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.net Link them on a single page somewhere, wait Google to index it, and search for "hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf". What tld will Google show first? But if the .org or .net have a couple good links from somewhere else, they will rank higher. So, you're right on your pure domain keyword ranking, but I am from the opinion that it doesn't matter if you're going to use additional SEO techniques.
    - jasonkester 16y ago
      To whoever is downmodding this guy: Please stop. His post is neither inflammatory or offensive. If you disagree with what he's said, say so in a comment (with explanation as to why). Don't downvote just because you disagree.

ankeshk 16y ago

I used to buy celebrity domain names and create "fan" pages. And this is not true. .com .net .org worked equally well in getting ranked for the keywords in that domain. A lot more people buy .com domains. So we see a lot more .com rankings higher up in the search engines. But as far as my personal tests and experiences show, keyword.org will work as well as keyword.com in getting ranked if the same amount of link building is done for both of them. The only downside of a .org is - if you plan to sell the site or the domain, a .org gets a lower price than a .com. But from search engine point of view, both work equally well.

mistermann 16y ago

No offense, but you just don't know what you're talking about mate.