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Going to take off the objective hat and talk as a liberal. The answer I give to this is for the US, the President is both the head of state and the head of gove

Going to take off the objective hat and talk as a liberal. The answer I give to this is for the US, the President is both the head of state and the head of government. As is clear from recent articles about Trump's manner in the white house, his team is very much making many of the small policy decisions while Trump gets to strut out as the figurehead. So yes, Trump stepping down wouldn't mean much difference when it comes to his role as a head of government since his team seems to be handling that, but the head of state is still a very important role. Don't forget, he said, "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything[,]" essentially describing sexual assault, emphasized by me. Not to mention his poor demeanor, his lack of likeability, his unpopularity, the fact he was a reality-TV star. Having such an individual represent the nation is an embarrassment and does not inspire confidence in the nation nor does it abroad. Understand, no international body would respect Trump if he weren't the President. He does not prop us up as a country, he receives respect because we prop him up, and even then, he still depreciates his image by trying to project and strengthen his fragile pride and by involving himself in frivolous engagements on Twitter. So yes, having a different head of state would be beneficial for us, at least in our view. It would not make much of a difference in terms of actual policy, but it would give us with a better representative, which isn't a difficult bar to exceed. EDIT: I almost forgot, despite the politics of it, I do personally feel that a conflict of interest as a President is detrimental to the role as the head of government. We have already seen for example his orders on DAPL, which he still owns some shares of, a direct conflict of interest. And worse, of course, there are his foreign investments, which is worse from a national security standpoint. Sorry, but a head of government should represent us, not their own personal financial interests. You don't even need all my feeling about Trump as a figurehead, although that is important, but his conflicts of interests are a significant issue with him as an elected official.

jupiter90000 10y ago
I hear what you're saying. For me, actively working to make someone president (Pence) who has a proven track record in politics doing things for many years I disagree with seems even less desirable to me. Hard to say what the 'lesser of two evils' is here.
- PretzelFisch 10y ago
  Perception of the country and international policy and diplomacy.
dsfyu404ed 10y ago
his team is very much making many of the small policy decisions while Trump gets to strut out as the figurehead. Which is pretty much exactly how you would expect a "I have no idea what I'm doing but I don't want to fuck it up so I'll fill my cabinet with people who know what they're doing and let them do their thing" administration to work. >Not to mention his poor demeanor, his lack of likeability, his unpopularity, the fact he was a reality-TV star. Having such an individual represent the nation is an embarrassment and does not inspire confidence in the nation nor does it abroad. Are these seriously that much more important than how well the job gets done. On some level I don't care if the president is a member of the goddamn KKK if the job gets done well enough.
- the_cat_kittles 10y ago
  i think some of those things are part of the job, right? is your country getting rich really worth it if it means you cross every moral boundary and inflict continual psychological trauma on half the people in it?
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  >>Which is pretty much exactly how you would expect a "I have no idea what I'm doing but I don't want to fuck it up so I'll fill my cabinet with people who know what they're doing and let them do their thing" administration to work. Sorry, but have to actually seen his cabinet? Ben Carson heading Housing and Urban Development. Betsy Davis heading Department of Education. Rick Perry, a guy with a bachelors degree in animal science, heading the Department of Energy... these people are some of the least qualified people on the planet.
  - icantdrive55 10y ago
    So many people in positions of authority are the least qualified. Trump, and his advisers, picked people whom he could manipulate. I do believe in a lot of what Trump promised though. A lot of us felt left out of this new economy, or taken advantage of? Yes--the better health care insurance was fine, but if your close to being homeless, it doesn't matter. That said, if the appointment of Rick Perry doesn't prove that wealthy, lucky kids will eventually be the boss; I don't know what will? (He supposedly didn't understand the basic concept of a simple centerfuge? He didn't understand the concept of the spinning machine, and what it could be used for?) I grew up with wealthy kids. I grew up in Marin County. A lot of you will recognize the county. It's the county your boss might be eying on their short list. All those kids, even the kids who ruined their minds in college ingesting too many drugs, are doing well right now. That generational money got to them. Hacker News doesn't like to bring up just how much money, and inside guidance helps a person, but in my world it's a law. What are qualification anyways? I'm sure all these appointees have glorious looking resumes. I think everyone of you has looked at that inept boss, and wondered, "How on earth did he/she get there?"

jupiter90000 10y ago

I hear what you're saying. For me, actively working to make someone president (Pence) who has a proven track record in politics doing things for many years I disagree with seems even less desirable to me. Hard to say what the 'lesser of two evils' is here.

PretzelFisch 10y ago
Perception of the country and international policy and diplomacy.

dsfyu404ed 10y ago

his team is very much making many of the small policy decisions while Trump gets to strut out as the figurehead. Which is pretty much exactly how you would expect a "I have no idea what I'm doing but I don't want to fuck it up so I'll fill my cabinet with people who know what they're doing and let them do their thing" administration to work. >Not to mention his poor demeanor, his lack of likeability, his unpopularity, the fact he was a reality-TV star. Having such an individual represent the nation is an embarrassment and does not inspire confidence in the nation nor does it abroad. Are these seriously that much more important than how well the job gets done. On some level I don't care if the president is a member of the goddamn KKK if the job gets done well enough.

the_cat_kittles 10y ago
i think some of those things are part of the job, right? is your country getting rich really worth it if it means you cross every moral boundary and inflict continual psychological trauma on half the people in it?
enraged_camel 10y ago
>>Which is pretty much exactly how you would expect a "I have no idea what I'm doing but I don't want to fuck it up so I'll fill my cabinet with people who know what they're doing and let them do their thing" administration to work. Sorry, but have to actually seen his cabinet? Ben Carson heading Housing and Urban Development. Betsy Davis heading Department of Education. Rick Perry, a guy with a bachelors degree in animal science, heading the Department of Energy... these people are some of the least qualified people on the planet.
- icantdrive55 10y ago
  So many people in positions of authority are the least qualified. Trump, and his advisers, picked people whom he could manipulate. I do believe in a lot of what Trump promised though. A lot of us felt left out of this new economy, or taken advantage of? Yes--the better health care insurance was fine, but if your close to being homeless, it doesn't matter. That said, if the appointment of Rick Perry doesn't prove that wealthy, lucky kids will eventually be the boss; I don't know what will? (He supposedly didn't understand the basic concept of a simple centerfuge? He didn't understand the concept of the spinning machine, and what it could be used for?) I grew up with wealthy kids. I grew up in Marin County. A lot of you will recognize the county. It's the county your boss might be eying on their short list. All those kids, even the kids who ruined their minds in college ingesting too many drugs, are doing well right now. That generational money got to them. Hacker News doesn't like to bring up just how much money, and inside guidance helps a person, but in my world it's a law. What are qualification anyways? I'm sure all these appointees have glorious looking resumes. I think everyone of you has looked at that inept boss, and wondered, "How on earth did he/she get there?"