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Sincere question without picking a side: Is Systemd being coded with the same level of 'care' as OpenSSL was before being pwned?
by phantom_oracle 10y ago
Sincere question without picking a side:
Is Systemd being coded with the same level of 'care' as OpenSSL was before being pwned?
- astrodust 10y agoThese projects aren't very glamorous to work for, plus when everyone's shitting on your work every day it's hard to stay motivated. Anyone who works on systemd is doing difficult work. We should treat these teams better and give them support rather than just brow-beat them for their mistakes.
- angry_octet 10y agoNot at all. OpenSSL was suffering from a lack of effort/funding and a desire not to 'break' anything. Systemd has plenty of effort and breaks everything, but a lack of philosophy, a lack of introspection. It's ignoring plenty of hard lessons about security practice and being very Microsoft-y. Massive technical debt which we will collectively pay for for a decade or more.
- yuhong 10y agoThe buggy TLS heartbeat extension was new code I think though.
- viraptor 10y agoFrom my experience - not that much care. I've found a different (remote) DoS issue in systemd-resolved a few months ago. It was a really obvious parsing issue. Also no CVE or announcement.
- anonbanker 10y agoIf only systemd was written with the level of care OpenSSL had...