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They also have (as bullies like Trump know all too well) a duty to feed their families, pay the mortgages, and save for their children's education. At least un

They also have (as bullies like Trump know all too well) a duty to feed their families, pay the mortgages, and save for their children's education. At least until they find another job (in the wonderfully lucrative and liquid job market for research scientists of our current era). And probably wouldn't appreciate outsiders telling them which duty is more inviolable, or sacrosanct.

st3v3r 10y ago
Then they should have taken private sector jobs. I'm sorry, but if they do not resist Trump, then they are complacent in his bullying.
clumsysmurf 10y ago
Its sad that out president is a bully. The problem of how the establishment bullies the rest of society is only going to get worse. "Bully Nation: How the American Establishment Creates a Bullying Society" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0700622608 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0700622608
noobermin 10y ago
>(in the wonderfully lucrative and liquid job market for research scientists of our current era) Surely you jest. I think you mean in the private sector. A scientist joins a national lab or institution not for the pay, but for academic and research reasons.
- Filligree 10y ago
  I believe that was irony.
- kafkaesq 10y ago
  It was, indeed, in jest. Irony and humor being one of the few defenses we have against the rapidly onsetting age of darkness.
headcanon 10y ago
They're not mutually exclusive. Scientists have been putting together open data repositories as a "Trump shelter" ever since election day. Data that is publicly available today can be downloaded and stored anywhere, and the government can't do anything about it other than cast FUD. Honestly, assuming all our data is preserved in some form, I think its almost a blessing in disguise. finding and downloading public datasets involves wading through a cornucopia of terrible websites that feel like they're deliberately trying to keep people out. Government science shops don't typically hire UX people, so allowing those people to get their hands on some open data services can't be bad.
- ktRolster 10y ago
  They're not mutually exclusive. Scientists have been putting together open data repositories as a "Trump shelter" ever since election day Yet another good thing the Trump election has (inadvertently) caused.
- jonlucc 10y ago
  This assumes there are no downsides to not receiving any new data from these agencies for 4 years (or 8).
  - headcanon 10y ago
    Yeah, that part doesn't sound so great :/
- jonlucc 10y ago
  This assumes there are no downsides to not receiving any new data from these agencies for 4 years (or 8).
SapphireSun 10y ago
It's true that there are competing concerns, but that is why we hold up dissenters that safeguard the public interest as heroes. They are making a noble attempt to protect the public in times of adversity.

st3v3r 10y ago

Then they should have taken private sector jobs. I'm sorry, but if they do not resist Trump, then they are complacent in his bullying.

clumsysmurf 10y ago

Its sad that out president is a bully. The problem of how the establishment bullies the rest of society is only going to get worse. "Bully Nation: How the American Establishment Creates a Bullying Society" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0700622608 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0700622608

noobermin 10y ago

>(in the wonderfully lucrative and liquid job market for research scientists of our current era) Surely you jest. I think you mean in the private sector. A scientist joins a national lab or institution not for the pay, but for academic and research reasons.

Filligree 10y ago
I believe that was irony.
kafkaesq 10y ago
It was, indeed, in jest. Irony and humor being one of the few defenses we have against the rapidly onsetting age of darkness.

headcanon 10y ago

They're not mutually exclusive. Scientists have been putting together open data repositories as a "Trump shelter" ever since election day. Data that is publicly available today can be downloaded and stored anywhere, and the government can't do anything about it other than cast FUD. Honestly, assuming all our data is preserved in some form, I think its almost a blessing in disguise. finding and downloading public datasets involves wading through a cornucopia of terrible websites that feel like they're deliberately trying to keep people out. Government science shops don't typically hire UX people, so allowing those people to get their hands on some open data services can't be bad.

ktRolster 10y ago
They're not mutually exclusive. Scientists have been putting together open data repositories as a "Trump shelter" ever since election day Yet another good thing the Trump election has (inadvertently) caused.
jonlucc 10y ago
This assumes there are no downsides to not receiving any new data from these agencies for 4 years (or 8).
- headcanon 10y ago
  Yeah, that part doesn't sound so great :/
jonlucc 10y ago
This assumes there are no downsides to not receiving any new data from these agencies for 4 years (or 8).

SapphireSun 10y ago

It's true that there are competing concerns, but that is why we hold up dissenters that safeguard the public interest as heroes. They are making a noble attempt to protect the public in times of adversity.