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I would have played along if you had said "Microsoft's visions are always disappointingly clunky and 3 years too late". What is the horrible dystopian nightmare

I would have played along if you had said "Microsoft's visions are always disappointingly clunky and 3 years too late". What is the horrible dystopian nightmare?

Arizhel 10y ago
Well basically everything running MS-ware. Sounds like a nightmare scenario to me, much like GM's vision of the future where everyone is driving a GM car, or Comcast's vision where everyone uses Comcast service and cord-cutters don't exist. Throw the Windows 10 UI on top of that, add in Windows phones and tablets, and it's a really bad nightmare.
- alex_anglin 10y ago
  ...and yet Office runs just fine on my mac, iOS and Android devices. SQL Server is getting a lot of press for their Linux support - and so on. Ultimately, they seem to be much more pragmatic under Satyas leadership and that seems to be reflecting on them well. They are a fierce competitor in a variety of domains and are ultimately accountable to the market.I say all of this as someone who has distinctly not been a MS fan over the past two decades.
  - tracker1 10y ago
    Agreed, I've been really happy (Win10 privacy issues aside) with the direction under Sataya than Balmer/Gates... DevDiv is a shining example of cooperative open-source in a lot of ways today. And beyond that, Azure services have been pretty nice to use (if a bit on the pricey side). I'm actually looking at C# via .Net Core again, something I'd been moving away from for about 6 years now. Although that transition has been pretty confusing in a lot of ways. Looks like .Net core 2.x will be pretty ready when it ships, and 1.x is at least usable. Still leaps and bounds better than Java imho. The services surrounding Office 365 have been pretty compelling, and well priced around their competition, it will be interesting to say the least.
- metaphorm 10y ago
  a dystopian nightmare is having a dominant vendor in the personal computer ecosystem?
  - Arizhel 10y ago
    When their products are utter crap, and there's much better freely-available solutions available, yes. How exactly is it good to have a rent-seeking corporation in control of everyone's computing infrastructure?

I would have played along if you had said "Microsoft's visions are always disappointingly clunky and 3 years too late". What is the horrible dystopian nightmare?

Arizhel 10y ago

Well basically everything running MS-ware. Sounds like a nightmare scenario to me, much like GM's vision of the future where everyone is driving a GM car, or Comcast's vision where everyone uses Comcast service and cord-cutters don't exist. Throw the Windows 10 UI on top of that, add in Windows phones and tablets, and it's a really bad nightmare.

alex_anglin 10y ago
...and yet Office runs just fine on my mac, iOS and Android devices. SQL Server is getting a lot of press for their Linux support - and so on. Ultimately, they seem to be much more pragmatic under Satyas leadership and that seems to be reflecting on them well. They are a fierce competitor in a variety of domains and are ultimately accountable to the market.I say all of this as someone who has distinctly not been a MS fan over the past two decades.
- tracker1 10y ago
  Agreed, I've been really happy (Win10 privacy issues aside) with the direction under Sataya than Balmer/Gates... DevDiv is a shining example of cooperative open-source in a lot of ways today. And beyond that, Azure services have been pretty nice to use (if a bit on the pricey side). I'm actually looking at C# via .Net Core again, something I'd been moving away from for about 6 years now. Although that transition has been pretty confusing in a lot of ways. Looks like .Net core 2.x will be pretty ready when it ships, and 1.x is at least usable. Still leaps and bounds better than Java imho. The services surrounding Office 365 have been pretty compelling, and well priced around their competition, it will be interesting to say the least.
metaphorm 10y ago
a dystopian nightmare is having a dominant vendor in the personal computer ecosystem?
- Arizhel 10y ago
  When their products are utter crap, and there's much better freely-available solutions available, yes. How exactly is it good to have a rent-seeking corporation in control of everyone's computing infrastructure?