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Whew. Custom Elements, Fetch, and async/await all at once? Christmas came real early in 2017...
by tdumitrescu 10y ago
Whew. Custom Elements, Fetch, and async/await all at once? Christmas came real early in 2017...
- j_s 10y agoDoes this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533
- r00fus 10y agoSafari is the new IE only if you think Apple is the new Microsoft. A dubious analogy that works if you squint really hard.
- forgotAgain 10y agoI don't know about that. I see Tim Cook as being closer to Steve Ballmer than Steve Jobs. Operations vs Vision.
- natmaster 10y agoThey're still super late to this party. But good to see they're finally implementing this.
- dested 10y agoWebRTC is the main killer for me
- SquareWheel 10y agoService Workers is the big one I'm waiting on before making that call, but this certainly helps. https://webkit.org/status/#specification-service-workers https://webkit.org/status/#specification-service-workers
- melling 10y agoSafari was never the new IE. Microsoft took 5 years to go from IE6 to IE7, and 7 was really bad. IE completely stagnated, while being the default browser on a billion PC's. Then they were very slow to adopt HTML 5 features. Developers were supporting IE6 over 10 years after it was released. I doubt if many people are supporting 5 year old versions of Safari, let alone 10 year old versions.
- Osmium 10y ago> Microsoft took 5 years to go from IE6 to IE7, as 7 was really bad. IE completely stagnated, while being the default browser on a billion PC's. I feel like many people have forgotten how bad this really was, or simply weren't developing back then ...
- pippy 10y agoSafari cleaned up their act in the last year: http://caniuse.com/ http://caniuse.com/ So far they're third going by the caniuse score, which is based on the features developers can use. Previously it last place. I don't think it was the developer backlash that forced Apple to start releasing TP previews of Safari and progressing features. I was likely more of a gap between major versions (Safari 9.x vs 10.x)
- eridius 10y agoSafari has actually had WebKit Nightlies for many years. The Technical Preview is just basically a semi-stable beta track (as opposed to the Nightlies which are of course nightly builds).
- draw_down 10y agoI'm sure people will find other things to bitch about. It is made by Apple, after all.
- sangnoir 10y agoYeah, people always complain about anything. I can't believe people had the gall to complain about the hockey-puck mouse or MobileMe
- feross 10y agoWithout WebRTC and Service Workers, I'm still holding my breath. http://iswebrtcreadyyet.com/ http://iswebrtcreadyyet.com/
- andreineculau 10y agoGetting merged http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/210942 http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/210942
- Vinnl 10y agoYou could not uninstall IE, but at least you could install Firefox on Windows. You can't use any truly different browser than Safari on iOS, so until that's possible, I'm hating on it as much on iOS as I hated on IE on Windows. Even if it's lagging behind less than IE did, I still strongly dislike being at Apple's mercy rather than the users'.
- ArlenBales 10y agoToo bad we still have to use shims until iOS Safari catches up (hopefully this year).