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APFS is coming soon: iOS 10.3 will automatically upgrade your filesystem
- gigatexal 10y agoI wish they had just forked/built onto ZFS and used any desktop facing improvements from openZFS and say TrueOS but in any case HFS+ was due for an upgrade a long time ago.
- stephencanon 10y agoWhat ZFS features do you want that APFS won't/can't provide? Is there some other reason you want ZFS instead?
- ripa 10y agoOn a very high level ZFS main thing compared to APFS is currently data integrity features such as checksums of the data to detect bit rot (silent corruption) and the ability to automatically heal the data (with enough redundancy in place). It would be good to at least have the checksum capability in place to make one aware of bit rot silently destroying data. Hopefully there has been some improvements to the capabilities since the announcement last year.
- nkkollaw 10y agoDoes bit rot actually happen on regular computers? I thought it took years and it was mostly a danger for huge external hard drives. I'd rather have better SSD performance. I just personally never lost any data because I let it sit for too long.
- mveety 10y agoYes, bit rot happens all the time. Normally the drive its self catches and repairs these errors, but sometimes they slip through and become the filesystems problem. It doesn't really happen super often, but the fact that it happens at all mandates that filesystems that care about data integrity handle it.
- theluketaylor 10y agoThe data integrity features of apfs are fairly weak compared to zfs. zfs also does much more interesting things with multidisk management, though those features are less critical on the desktop
- gigatexal 10y agoZFS's killer feature: checksums
- mveety 10y agoAPFS can't provide the stability that ZFS does because it hasn't been beaten on for long enough yet. I have a hard time trusting a new filesystem to store anything remotely important until its been beaten on long enough to find many of the nasty pathologies. Features don't matter as much as stability. Keeping your data safe is the #1 thing a filesystem needs to do. Also, based on how the quality of the OS has been in the last few versions, I'm not sure I entirely want to trust brand new software from apple right now. In my opinion, they don't take bugs seriously enough, and a filesystem is a hell of a lot more complicated and important than a music player, web browser, or email client.
- eridius 10y agoThe engineers who work on filesystems are not the engineers who work on music, mail, etc. Apple has been doing a lot of stuff under the covers with their filesystems, and it's all been rock solid so far, so I don't see any reason to start doubting them now.
- jbverschoor 10y agoBecause ZFS is deployed on consumer hardware of hundreds of millions of people? No, zfs is instead used on ecc equipped servers in carefully managed environments.
- hobarrera 10y agoAside from what other said: compatibility with others OSs. But that's probably not very high on Apple's agenda (at least not for an FS).