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> But what Shkreli did is common practice How does this justify anything? Lots of sleazy things are common practice. Some are legal, some are illegal. Commonal
by throwaway729 10y ago
> But what Shkreli did is common practice
How does this justify anything? Lots of sleazy things are common practice. Some are legal, some are illegal. Commonality and legality aren't really strong justifications for anything.
Shkreli may have been singled out in the court of public opinion, but that doesn't make what he did any less contemptible.
> It's just as easy to make the tech industry look like a piece of shit... but nobody on here wants to state that fact and say how sleazy tech is.
Really? Because I literally haven't seen a single self-driving thread on HN in the past several years that doesn't contain a highly-voted and somewhat lengthy comment thread about this.
See also literally every HN UBI thread for the past several years.
And that's just comment threads. Yesterday alone there were two stories on the front page for most of the day about social consequences of self-driving.
So it seems like people -- especially self-driving people -- are thinking about this, have a wide variety of opinions on the trade-offs. And when they believe as you do, often actively advocate for policies that would help the people whose jobs they might displace.
There's also the fact that technology (both self-driving and drugs) brings good along with the bad. Perhaps if Shkreli had created a new drug and then price gouged that drug, the situation might be a bit more comparable. But that's not what happened.
> Now is more important than ever to be truthful with ourselves and how the world works and not get hyped up over shit
Or, in Shkreli's case, understand how the world works and also get hyped up over shit. His business model should be illegal.
- MichaelGG 10y agoSo you're saying that he should sell the drugs at a low cost, forgoing profits, for what exactly? Service to the US people? If you want companies to give up most of their profit just to be nice, then create laws to do so. Either have a socialised R&D system, or make it easier for other companies to create generics. Nothing besides the FDA is stopping a competitor from selling generic Daraprim. And if it's not economically viable, then maybe the government should contract at fixed prices to ensure the availability of otherwise unfeasible drugs.
- throwaway729 10y agoThis defense of crooks on the basis that the system is broken is a bit ridiculous. The morality of their behavior is an independent issue. It's possible that the system is broken and also the people who exploit those flaws are assholes. By analogy, insecure software is both common and also often inexcusable. Incentives are not aligned to encourage secure software. That's a real structural problem. But those problems don't make credit card theft morally permissible. Also, I think what Martin does should be illegal. And also that the behavior is reprehensible even when it's not illegal. Criticism and action aren't mutually exclusive...