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> if it can successfully drive you on you everywhere you go in your daily life? Well, simply because I don't know everywhere "I would have to go in my daily li

> if it can successfully drive you on you everywhere you go in your daily life? Well, simply because I don't know everywhere "I would have to go in my daily life" when I am buying the damn car. >Your argument makes about as much sense as claiming cell phones aren't truly mobile because you can't use them in Antarctica. By that logic, your argument also makes only as much as sense as calling a walkie talkie with 100m range a mobile phone.

wrsh07 10y ago
So many people get by without owning a car that if you have to go somewhere where your existing car doesn't work (for whatever reason) you'll be just fine You can rent or take a cab or an uber. I don't own a car. I get around just fine at home or when traveling.
- babyrainbow 10y ago
  Which bring us back to the original question. Why the need for self driving cars? If your time for commute is that much valuable, just hire a driver or call a taxi. Like most people who's time is actually valuable, have been doing for years... Quite honestly, it is quite a joke when people on HN brag about how "valuable" their time is....
  - wrsh07 10y ago
    Why? Okay let's make a list * Safety - they'll be safer. Period. * It's a natural extension for cos like uber - how else can they bring costs down enough? * It meshes well with other aspects of tech reducing friction - deliveries will be cheaper (think dinner, groceries, taskrabbit) * They damn near already exist.
    - babyrainbow 10y ago
      > Safety - they'll be safer. Period. No. I don't think so. Not in the foreseeable future at least.. >* It's a natural extension for cos like uber - how else can they bring costs down enough? I don't know or care. >It meshes well with other aspects of tech reducing friction - deliveries will be cheaper (think dinner, groceries, taskrabbit) Well, why do you think the providers will reduce the cost? They can always add to their profit, instead of making the service cheaper. >* They damn near already exist. So does cold fusion.
      - chaosphere2112 10y ago
        >> Safety - they'll be safer. Period. > No. I don't think so. Not in the foreseeable future at least.. According to the NHTSA[1], they already are. >>* It's a natural extension for cos like uber - how else can they bring costs down enough? > I don't know or care. The point is that they're dumping money into the tech for their own purposes, regardless of effectiveness as a consumer product >> It meshes well with other aspects of tech reducing friction - deliveries will be cheaper (think dinner, groceries, taskrabbit) > Well, why do you think the providers will reduce the cost? They can always add to their profit, instead of making the service cheaper. I sure hope they do; I'd doubt any of those comapanies make any profit as is. And again, they'll be willing to spend lots of money on the cars, making them a viable product without the consumer market. [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/19/nhtsas-full-final-investigation-into-teslas-autopilot-shows-40-crash-rate-reduction/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/19/nhtsas-full-final-investig...

wrsh07 10y ago

So many people get by without owning a car that if you have to go somewhere where your existing car doesn't work (for whatever reason) you'll be just fine You can rent or take a cab or an uber. I don't own a car. I get around just fine at home or when traveling.

babyrainbow 10y ago
Which bring us back to the original question. Why the need for self driving cars? If your time for commute is that much valuable, just hire a driver or call a taxi. Like most people who's time is actually valuable, have been doing for years... Quite honestly, it is quite a joke when people on HN brag about how "valuable" their time is....
- wrsh07 10y ago
  Why? Okay let's make a list * Safety - they'll be safer. Period. * It's a natural extension for cos like uber - how else can they bring costs down enough? * It meshes well with other aspects of tech reducing friction - deliveries will be cheaper (think dinner, groceries, taskrabbit) * They damn near already exist.
  - babyrainbow 10y ago
    > Safety - they'll be safer. Period. No. I don't think so. Not in the foreseeable future at least.. >* It's a natural extension for cos like uber - how else can they bring costs down enough? I don't know or care. >It meshes well with other aspects of tech reducing friction - deliveries will be cheaper (think dinner, groceries, taskrabbit) Well, why do you think the providers will reduce the cost? They can always add to their profit, instead of making the service cheaper. >* They damn near already exist. So does cold fusion.
    - chaosphere2112 10y ago
      >> Safety - they'll be safer. Period. > No. I don't think so. Not in the foreseeable future at least.. According to the NHTSA[1], they already are. >>* It's a natural extension for cos like uber - how else can they bring costs down enough? > I don't know or care. The point is that they're dumping money into the tech for their own purposes, regardless of effectiveness as a consumer product >> It meshes well with other aspects of tech reducing friction - deliveries will be cheaper (think dinner, groceries, taskrabbit) > Well, why do you think the providers will reduce the cost? They can always add to their profit, instead of making the service cheaper. I sure hope they do; I'd doubt any of those comapanies make any profit as is. And again, they'll be willing to spend lots of money on the cars, making them a viable product without the consumer market. [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/19/nhtsas-full-final-investigation-into-teslas-autopilot-shows-40-crash-rate-reduction/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/19/nhtsas-full-final-investig...