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Op seems to be right when even Wikipedia points out the liberal / left bias of the paper. "The editorial stance of the newspaper is liberal and generally of ce

by 1337biz 10y ago

Op seems to be right when even Wikipedia points out the liberal / left bias of the paper. "The editorial stance of the newspaper is liberal and generally of centre-left,..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BCddeutsche_Zeitung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BCddeutsche_Zeitung

ginko 10y ago
"liberal" in this case is in the European sense of the word. What Americans would call libertarian.
- icu 10y ago
  Hello ginko I respectfully disagree with your statement. European Liberalism is not equivalent to American Libertarianism. Granted there is some overlap, but the parts that do not overlap make all the difference. With regards to the overlap, both political philosophies support individual liberties and limited government. However European Liberalism usually encompasses the belief that government should act to alleviate poverty and other social problems whereas American Libertarianism usually focuses more on personal responsibility to alleviate poverty and other social problems. What I mean by this is that, from an American Libertarianism point of view, one would tend to: * Take responsibility to get themselves out of poverty and other social problems * Reject the notion that they should be taxed (and therefore be involuntarily forced) to alleviate poverty and other social problems of others, and * Reject welfare from the state because it was taken from others involuntarily. Generally from an American Libertarianism point of view, should you wish to alleviate poverty and other social problems of others, it must be done voluntarily through charity because to do otherwise would be to trespass on personal freedom of others. This is very different to European Liberalism which accepts the concept that everyone in society should be taxed to alleviate poverty and other social problems in society.
Arnt 10y ago
So? Yeah, SZ is liberal (as the Germans use that word) and you can see that clearly in the opinion pieces on pages 2, 4 and some high-numbered pages. OP made claims about the other pages, about the factual pieces.

by 1337biz 10y ago

ginko 10y ago

"liberal" in this case is in the European sense of the word. What Americans would call libertarian.

icu 10y ago
Hello ginko I respectfully disagree with your statement. European Liberalism is not equivalent to American Libertarianism. Granted there is some overlap, but the parts that do not overlap make all the difference. With regards to the overlap, both political philosophies support individual liberties and limited government. However European Liberalism usually encompasses the belief that government should act to alleviate poverty and other social problems whereas American Libertarianism usually focuses more on personal responsibility to alleviate poverty and other social problems. What I mean by this is that, from an American Libertarianism point of view, one would tend to: * Take responsibility to get themselves out of poverty and other social problems * Reject the notion that they should be taxed (and therefore be involuntarily forced) to alleviate poverty and other social problems of others, and * Reject welfare from the state because it was taken from others involuntarily. Generally from an American Libertarianism point of view, should you wish to alleviate poverty and other social problems of others, it must be done voluntarily through charity because to do otherwise would be to trespass on personal freedom of others. This is very different to European Liberalism which accepts the concept that everyone in society should be taxed to alleviate poverty and other social problems in society.

Arnt 10y ago

So? Yeah, SZ is liberal (as the Germans use that word) and you can see that clearly in the opinion pieces on pages 2, 4 and some high-numbered pages. OP made claims about the other pages, about the factual pieces.