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For me there is always an "overlap" problem with "infotools" like todo lists, issue trackers, wikis, google notebook etc. And in my case, they're always competi
by Maro 16y ago
For me there is always an "overlap" problem with "infotools" like todo lists, issue trackers, wikis, google notebook etc. And in my case, they're always competing with email, which is hard to beat.
Suppose I have an idea for a neat new feature for my product. What do I do? Write an email to the others, or put it on my todo list, or on a shared todo list, or create a feature request on the issue tracker, or write it in a wiki, or write it in google notebook, or just write it in todo.txt...?
In the end, I use email for most things and google notebook for personal notes. I also carry Moleskine for when I'm not in front of the computer.
Since you asked about collaboration, I think an ideal tool would somehow integrate with email (gmail), because clearly email is not going away for another x years.
Also, I think the quick descent of Wave into also-ran status shows that "fancy" collaboration sounds good, but even if the initial reactions are super-favorable (I used GW for weeks and even wrote a blog post about it), email prevails! Hence my suggestion to integrate with email.
- fragmede 16y agoI think Wave's lack of success is due to a lacking user experience. Google integration hurt wave because it forced your friends also into that model. Etherpad had a much lower 'buy-in' that made it great for experimenting. The lack of folding messages hurt the returning-user experience - I've read the same msgs at the top of the wave since we started it. Outgoing email also seemed to really like to quote the first message on the wave, and never give anything more useful than 'the wave was updated', so I'd put the effort to login only to find the only activity was a non-committal 'uh huh'. Facebook at least tells me who messaged me. I believe in Wave's innovation to realize I'll email out a rough draft of 'things to bring on the trip' and the other people on the thread can both respond as a new message (hey, whats the plan for food?), and also to add/remove/comment on my list of things to bring.