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"I am a night owl. You can tell me I have to have my butt in a chair within your line of sight at 8 or 9am, but that is very wasteful. You are wasting my time a

"I am a night owl. You can tell me I have to have my butt in a chair within your line of sight at 8 or 9am, but that is very wasteful. You are wasting my time and yours. I am not a morning person. I will start being very effective around 11am and I really get going in the afternoon/evening. If you force your preferred hours onto me, both employer and employee lose. " THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS! Believe me I understand that it's a difficult problem to solve - everyone seems to have different "optimal" work hours. But right now, the standard work day is HEAVILY favoring the morning person's mind.

Broken_Hippo 10y ago
I second this enough to comment! Furthermore, If your effective times starts at 11, consider yourself lucky. 11 is at the earlier end of my natural waking time. I start getting effective 2 hours afterwards.
- rubicon33 10y ago
  I'm in the same boat. In fact, I don't REALLY come online until after lunch, sometime around 1 or 2. And if allowed to revert to my natural sleep cycle, my most creative and productive time is between 2pm - 3am. Good luck finding an employer who is cool with that. Not to mention, a spouse.
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    My best hours are similar. I think the best option is a remote team distributed across time zones or one in a time zone that aligns with your ideal hours. Admittedly, much easier said than done.
  - Broken_Hippo 10y ago
    "If allowed to revert to my natural sleep cycle..." I very much understand this. I don't think people realize that for me, I have to watch my sleep every day - including weekends - to be able to be at work at 8am during the week. Sleeping in on the weekends means that sudddenly, I'm awake at 1am monday morning. The spouse bit hasn't been an issue: He has a similar body clock luckily. Jobs are more difficult.
- digler999 10y ago
  Can confirm, I am sitting here at work, doing nothing. probably wont start "work" for another hour or so.

Broken_Hippo 10y ago

I second this enough to comment! Furthermore, If your effective times starts at 11, consider yourself lucky. 11 is at the earlier end of my natural waking time. I start getting effective 2 hours afterwards.

rubicon33 10y ago
I'm in the same boat. In fact, I don't REALLY come online until after lunch, sometime around 1 or 2. And if allowed to revert to my natural sleep cycle, my most creative and productive time is between 2pm - 3am. Good luck finding an employer who is cool with that. Not to mention, a spouse.
- tedmiston 10y ago
  My best hours are similar. I think the best option is a remote team distributed across time zones or one in a time zone that aligns with your ideal hours. Admittedly, much easier said than done.
- Broken_Hippo 10y ago
  "If allowed to revert to my natural sleep cycle..." I very much understand this. I don't think people realize that for me, I have to watch my sleep every day - including weekends - to be able to be at work at 8am during the week. Sleeping in on the weekends means that sudddenly, I'm awake at 1am monday morning. The spouse bit hasn't been an issue: He has a similar body clock luckily. Jobs are more difficult.
digler999 10y ago
Can confirm, I am sitting here at work, doing nothing. probably wont start "work" for another hour or so.