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Not trying to be snarky; why do they owe their drivers anything but incentive to work for them? Because karma is bitch, and history bites back. And if Uber do

Not trying to be snarky; why do they owe their drivers anything but incentive to work for them? Because karma is bitch, and history bites back. And if Uber doesn't step up to the plate, and start doing what's not only right for its drivers, but (by any common-sense analysis) also right for its own balance sheets in the long term (as opposed to what appears to be right in the short-term for its megalomaniacal expansion plans)-- that is, make driving a sustainable profession to be in, and not just a "well as long as times aren't so great, let's see how long we can get away with screwing these people" (as appears to be their current motto) profession -- then soon enough, it's going to bite back on them -- hard.

diminoten 10y ago
What does "times aren't so great" mean?
- kafkaesq 10y ago
  The state of the economy (and life in general) for people who aren't tech workers, these days.
  - diminoten 10y ago
    Based on what metrics?
    - strken 10y ago
      Probably increasing wealth inequality and declining inflation-adjusted wages at the lowest income range. http://www.oecd.org/social/inequality.htm http://www.oecd.org/social/inequality.htm
      - diminoten 10y ago
        Seems mixed at worst, improving mildly at best, hardly the bleak picture painted above: https://data.oecd.org/united-states.htm https://data.oecd.org/united-states.htm
civilian 10y ago
I think that this would essentially mean that Uber has to be a shrewder lender. Uber must know how much drivers usually make, and when a car payment would make it difficult to live, especially based on region. The solution to Uber being a bad lender and encouraging this "perception of indentured servitude" is to disallow some people who already have money problems or are buying too expensive of a car from participating. Which is an okay decision for them to make. But it does feel like they're taking some nanny-responsibilty for people who ought to be able to make their own financial decision? And they would absolutely be disqualifying some responsible people who could have made it work.

diminoten 10y ago

What does "times aren't so great" mean?

kafkaesq 10y ago
The state of the economy (and life in general) for people who aren't tech workers, these days.
- diminoten 10y ago
  Based on what metrics?
  - strken 10y ago
    Probably increasing wealth inequality and declining inflation-adjusted wages at the lowest income range. http://www.oecd.org/social/inequality.htm http://www.oecd.org/social/inequality.htm
    - diminoten 10y ago
      Seems mixed at worst, improving mildly at best, hardly the bleak picture painted above: https://data.oecd.org/united-states.htm https://data.oecd.org/united-states.htm

civilian 10y ago

I think that this would essentially mean that Uber has to be a shrewder lender. Uber must know how much drivers usually make, and when a car payment would make it difficult to live, especially based on region. The solution to Uber being a bad lender and encouraging this "perception of indentured servitude" is to disallow some people who already have money problems or are buying too expensive of a car from participating. Which is an okay decision for them to make. But it does feel like they're taking some nanny-responsibilty for people who ought to be able to make their own financial decision? And they would absolutely be disqualifying some responsible people who could have made it work.