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I am such a person. I got a job that requires me to be in the office at 08:30 and I do it. I have no difficulty going to bed at 11:30 and being asleep by 12:30

I am such a person. I got a job that requires me to be in the office at 08:30 and I do it. I have no difficulty going to bed at 11:30 and being asleep by 12:30. I have no difficulty getting up at 06:40 and starting my day. I can do all of these things because I am a responsible adult. But I don't feel right. I'm not a morning person. I am most productive in the afternoon. Telecommuting from 10:00 to 18:00 would make the most sense for me but I understand that most employers simply do not have the flexibility to come up with custom solutions for everyone.

madez 10y ago
> I can do all of these things because I am a responsible adult. You are saying that if anyone is not willing to do these things, they cannot be responsible adults. How rude and arrogant of you, if you really mean what you say.
- castis 10y ago
  If you cannot go to bed at a reasonable time in order to function at a job you have been hired to do, then no, you are not a responsible adult.
  - madez 10y ago
    You should ask someone who actually knows about that topic, e.g. any doctor that works with people with sleep problems, what they think of your statement.
    - castis 10y ago
      I suppose I should have said "willing to go to bed at a reasonable time" but I don't supposed that would have left you satiated. > You should ask someone who actually knows about that topic The irony of you calling someone out for being rude is almost palpable.
      - madez 10y ago
        I understand you are angry because of how I reacted. See, you are talking bad about other people, people you don't know, whose stories you might not even have ever imagined. And denying someone to possibly be a responsible adult is very bad in my book. Look how society treats people who are not adult or considered irresponsible. Having that in mind, I reacted rather direct and rude, but hopefully understandibly so.
  - dkersten 10y ago
    I don't function very well in the morning, regardless of how much sleep I get. I've experimented with all kinds of sleep schedules and durations. I've tried taking vitamins, melatonin, exercising before bed. I've tried using flux and not drinking coffee the day before or at all. Non of this worked to make me funciton more in the morning. However, I can usually function very well at night, even if I'm tired. Even if I got little sleep. The problem is, if I get up early and try to function, then I won't be able to funciton later either. I do get up early and work a "morning persion" schedule, but its important to note that my employers rarely get my best work with this schedule.
- LordKano 10y ago
  You are saying that if anyone is not willing to do these things, they cannot be responsible adults. Well, yes. If you are not willing (as opposed to not able) then you are not being a responsible adult. Yes, there are people who have circadian rhythm issues that prevent this but they aren't the ones to whom I was alluding.
  - madez 10y ago
    There are people who have circadian rhythm issues and are able but not willing to pay the price paid in health for adhering to a given sleeping cycle. You say these cannot be responsible adults. That's what appalls me.

madez 10y ago

> I can do all of these things because I am a responsible adult. You are saying that if anyone is not willing to do these things, they cannot be responsible adults. How rude and arrogant of you, if you really mean what you say.

castis 10y ago
If you cannot go to bed at a reasonable time in order to function at a job you have been hired to do, then no, you are not a responsible adult.
- madez 10y ago
  You should ask someone who actually knows about that topic, e.g. any doctor that works with people with sleep problems, what they think of your statement.
  - castis 10y ago
    I suppose I should have said "willing to go to bed at a reasonable time" but I don't supposed that would have left you satiated. > You should ask someone who actually knows about that topic The irony of you calling someone out for being rude is almost palpable.
    - madez 10y ago
      I understand you are angry because of how I reacted. See, you are talking bad about other people, people you don't know, whose stories you might not even have ever imagined. And denying someone to possibly be a responsible adult is very bad in my book. Look how society treats people who are not adult or considered irresponsible. Having that in mind, I reacted rather direct and rude, but hopefully understandibly so.
- dkersten 10y ago
  I don't function very well in the morning, regardless of how much sleep I get. I've experimented with all kinds of sleep schedules and durations. I've tried taking vitamins, melatonin, exercising before bed. I've tried using flux and not drinking coffee the day before or at all. Non of this worked to make me funciton more in the morning. However, I can usually function very well at night, even if I'm tired. Even if I got little sleep. The problem is, if I get up early and try to function, then I won't be able to funciton later either. I do get up early and work a "morning persion" schedule, but its important to note that my employers rarely get my best work with this schedule.
LordKano 10y ago
You are saying that if anyone is not willing to do these things, they cannot be responsible adults. Well, yes. If you are not willing (as opposed to not able) then you are not being a responsible adult. Yes, there are people who have circadian rhythm issues that prevent this but they aren't the ones to whom I was alluding.
- madez 10y ago
  There are people who have circadian rhythm issues and are able but not willing to pay the price paid in health for adhering to a given sleeping cycle. You say these cannot be responsible adults. That's what appalls me.