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End user access starts in a provincial/regional network, which is connected to a national "backbone", which maybe allows the traffic out of the country. In my e
by Canada 10y ago
End user access starts in a provincial/regional network, which is connected to a national "backbone", which maybe allows the traffic out of the country. In my experience there's massive packet loss between the province and "backbone". 40% loss is regular throughout the day. Stuff within China mostly works, but anything outside is flaky at best.
Now obviously enterprise can't put up with that crap, so there's better routes out. Say a datacenter in Guangdong province that has direct peering with Hong Kong where licensed companies are colocating. Those companies with access can take money, (or under the table their sysadmins can) to terminate a VPN or MPLS connection there, giving unfiltered access to the internet and bypassing the lossy path.
The going rate I've found for this is about USD $300 per megabit per month, plus whatever the costs are to get there. (eg. Your regular broadband connection if using a VPN or cost of MPLS/Lan extension type service from the telco) Too expensive for most individuals, but definitely worth it if you're a hotel catering to foreign guests who will be pissed off if Google, Facebook, and pretty much everything they recognize about the internet doesn't work.
In my view this document is calling for, among other things, rooting out of this kind of activity.
If anyone is familiar with this market for unfiltered internet in China I'd like to learn more about it.
- brador 10y ago$300 per megabit?? Did you mean GB or TB maybe?
- cthalupa 10y agoIt is likely sold based on throughput and not metered transfer.
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- Canada 10y agoI confirm that is indeed megabit per month. (324 gigabytes, or about $0.93 per gigabyte) Yeah, harsh. But hey, it's black market internet access.
- thinkloop 10y ago> megabit (324 gigabytes, or about $0.93 per gigabyte) A megabit is a million bits, or an 1/8 of a megabyte, what do you mean 324 gigabytes?
- kalleboo 10y agoSounds like he means 1 Mbps throughput, not 1 Mb transferred. 1 megabit of leased throughput, 24/7 over a month, adds up to 324 GB of data transferred.
- tornadoboy55 10y ago> black market internet access Sounds like a sentence from a '90s hacker game. Welcome to 2017 I guess..
- rahimnathwani 10y agoI think he means per mbit/s, not per mbit. e.g. $300 would get an unmetered line with a 1mbit/s max throughput
- isostatic 10y agoIndeed, this is how bandwidth is sold. To get an idea of how much $300/mo is, I just had a quote for a 1 gig dedicated ethernet from our office (not a datacentre) in Delhi to our rack in Telehouse Docklands North for $18k a month, or $18/mbit. For datacentre-datacentre I had a quote from Seoul KINX for $5k/month, or $5/mbit. Layer 2 links in both cases. These are fairly long haul links.
- aroch 10y agoYou must be doing relatively small commits (100mbit on a 1Gbps commit?), though I suppose connecting from India may be more expensive than intra-EU. I've been quoted <$2/mbit for UK-Hong Kong for 40Gbps on a 100Gbps commit
- PakG1 10y agoI buy unfiltered Internet for my org. We don't use VPN. It's super expensive. Email me if anyone likes. I prefer not to discuss it in public here because I'm not sure what the ramifications could be. It's a grey area in the market here.
- baq 10y agoa black market for network connections... gibson must be proud.
- PakG1 10y agoIt's not a black market, it's an awkward grey market. Deal only with the big ISPs. Everyone who emailed me, gee, give me time to reply... more emails than I expected. :) I'll email everyone at the same time later, bcc everyone.