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Coffee Shops etc. already run on pretty low margins -> they'd be out of business. Possibly, assuming nothing else changes, and they can't raise their prices or
by nkurz 10y ago
Coffee Shops etc. already run on pretty low margins -> they'd be out of business.
Possibly, assuming nothing else changes, and they can't raise their prices or automate so as to require less labor. But others are claiming that the problem with UBI is that all the prices would go up, presumably including those at the coffee shop. And if everyone in the neighborhood had another $1000 per month to spend, don't you think that at least some of the coffee shops would see increased business?
The value of the 'art' getting created is significantly lower than the 'service' they provide making coffee - or else that art would be getting created.
Maybe, but this bothers me in two ways.
First, it assumes only those with the surplus money to buy art are allowed to determine the value of art to society, and that those will the inability to pay for art have no say. Isn't it fair to allow these non-rich art lovers to democratically vote for policies that result in more art?
Second, it implies that the value of art can be completely judged by its market value of at the time it was created. The more creative geniuses we have serving coffee to rich folk, the fewer works of art we'll have in the future. Obviously most artists aren't geniuses, but I think this tradeoff at least merits some consideration.
if their are were 'worth something' to you and I, we'd be buying it. We're not. But we will however hire them to make coffee for us.
There is lots of art I appreciate and would like to encourage, but I don't have money to support it. I've never felt comfortable paying someone to make me hot beverages --- I'd much prefer self-service and greater automation.
I don't care what my neighbours 'aspirations' are.
Perhaps that's the big difference in our views. I care tremendously about whether those sharing my society feel they are living fulfilling lives. UBI might not be the best way to accomplish this, but I guess I hadn't considered that you might not consider this to be a benefit.