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Regarding John Nack on Apple’s Control Over Native iPhone OS Software

8 points by mrshoe 16y ago

drivebyacct 16y ago
It is becoming difficult to take Mr. Gruber seriously. The way he managed to frame Apple's actions as in any part 'in the best interest of the users' is just plain silly. Apple is interested in total control of the App ecosystem for several reasons and most, if not all, of them are solely based in the interior of Apple's money chest. "Users have a system where they can install apps with zero worries about misconfiguration or somehow doing something wrong." I've never ever thought twice about installing an Android application. The security model on Android is more impeccable than on Apple's. Apple's requires me to trust Jobs to tell me what I can, can't, should and shouldn't run (literally. My understanding is that there is little isolation between apps from an architectural security perspective). With Android, I simply have to trust an open source Dalvik engine which, at its very core, isolates the applications. "Adobe [...] knows that the best mobile platform, the one whose aesthetic and audience most closely align with their own, is the iPhone OS." Maybe, for now; I'm not even convinced Adobe's target audience is iPhone OS users (wouldn't Adobe's target audience be ALL mobile OSes), but who cares? That's like whining about my target audience being Cuba, it really doesn't matter does it? Eventually the Cubans will go elsewhere if they want US goods. I don't really understand what it means for a mobile OS to have an "aesthetic" that aligns with, what, an entire company? What does that even mean? Adobe is clearly NOT aligned with Apple if Adobe is interested in /being on iPhone OS and Apple slams the door in their face repeatedly/. I think it's abundantly clear that Adobe is happy enough to throw their weight, voice, etc (as small as it maybe perceived to be) behind Android. It's like someone charging you twice as much for a dish that tastes half as good, but drizzles it in fancy sauce. When you peel back the superficial appearances, you see that one platform has more developers resources, more "openness", more transparency, and generally treats developers better. If you think the iPhone OS is "slick" or you enjoy the current App market dominance (hmm, first mover advantage ANYONE?), fine. But those things are more than at risk of being dethroned by Google's continued Android development. It's going to be hard to point fingers at Android when Dalvik gets a huge performance boost and Flash runs more or less flawlessly on all new Android devices.
- drivebyacct 16y ago
  Wow, I write this and then read this post: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/13/entourage-edge http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/13/entourage-edge Are you fucking kidding me? This would be like me criticizing iPhone OS by reviewing a third party manufacturer using Meizu's iPhone OS clone on a shitty tablet and passing it off as judgement on Android itself. Gruber, when you get serious, hold your damn horses and write a real review on Google/VZW's official tablet. This other stupid stuff really doesn't paint you in a pretty light, especially paired with... your less absurd but equally Apple-grubbing content. edit: COME ON. This has to be a joke. It's not even a damn tablet. It's a dual screened, hinged device with a e-ink screen and a regular LED screen.

8 points by mrshoe 16y ago

It is becoming difficult to take Mr. Gruber seriously. The way he managed to frame Apple's actions as in any part 'in the best interest of the users' is just plain silly. Apple is interested in total control of the App ecosystem for several reasons and most, if not all, of them are solely based in the interior of Apple's money chest. "Users have a system where they can install apps with zero worries about misconfiguration or somehow doing something wrong." I've never ever thought twice about installing an Android application. The security model on Android is more impeccable than on Apple's. Apple's requires me to trust Jobs to tell me what I can, can't, should and shouldn't run (literally. My understanding is that there is little isolation between apps from an architectural security perspective). With Android, I simply have to trust an open source Dalvik engine which, at its very core, isolates the applications. "Adobe [...] knows that the best mobile platform, the one whose aesthetic and audience most closely align with their own, is the iPhone OS." Maybe, for now; I'm not even convinced Adobe's target audience is iPhone OS users (wouldn't Adobe's target audience be ALL mobile OSes), but who cares? That's like whining about my target audience being Cuba, it really doesn't matter does it? Eventually the Cubans will go elsewhere if they want US goods. I don't really understand what it means for a mobile OS to have an "aesthetic" that aligns with, what, an entire company? What does that even mean? Adobe is clearly NOT aligned with Apple if Adobe is interested in /being on iPhone OS and Apple slams the door in their face repeatedly/. I think it's abundantly clear that Adobe is happy enough to throw their weight, voice, etc (as small as it maybe perceived to be) behind Android. It's like someone charging you twice as much for a dish that tastes half as good, but drizzles it in fancy sauce. When you peel back the superficial appearances, you see that one platform has more developers resources, more "openness", more transparency, and generally treats developers better. If you think the iPhone OS is "slick" or you enjoy the current App market dominance (hmm, first mover advantage ANYONE?), fine. But those things are more than at risk of being dethroned by Google's continued Android development. It's going to be hard to point fingers at Android when Dalvik gets a huge performance boost and Flash runs more or less flawlessly on all new Android devices.

drivebyacct 16y ago
Wow, I write this and then read this post: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/13/entourage-edge http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/13/entourage-edge Are you fucking kidding me? This would be like me criticizing iPhone OS by reviewing a third party manufacturer using Meizu's iPhone OS clone on a shitty tablet and passing it off as judgement on Android itself. Gruber, when you get serious, hold your damn horses and write a real review on Google/VZW's official tablet. This other stupid stuff really doesn't paint you in a pretty light, especially paired with... your less absurd but equally Apple-grubbing content. edit: COME ON. This has to be a joke. It's not even a damn tablet. It's a dual screened, hinged device with a e-ink screen and a regular LED screen.