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I know I guess I just have to vent some frustration. Time to move on I guess. Does anyone have good hosting suggestions for a web app that has a 1GB database

I know I guess I just have to vent some frustration. Time to move on I guess. Does anyone have good hosting suggestions for a web app that has a 1GB database and a few thousand active users? I can only afford ~10-20 EUR a month on shared hosting atm.

techwizrd 10y ago
Have you tried Amazon Lightsail or Digital Ocean? Both of them give you more than a paltry 1 GB for their $5/mo plans.
- fastball 10y ago
  Seconding DigitalOcean. You can get a 20GB SSD + 1000GB xfer for $5 a month.
  - kuschku 10y ago
    Recommending against DigitalOcean: https://gist.github.com/justjanne/205cc548148829078d4bf2fd394f50ae https://gist.github.com/justjanne/205cc548148829078d4bf2fd39... TL;DR: Too expensive. (And, additionally, they tend to fuck over customers who paid for their money. "100$ free credit!". "You only need to pay 5$ to activate your free credit!". "Sorry, but because you didn’t use it, we removed your free credit!")
ycitm 10y ago
If you have control of your nameservers you can use cloudflare's free TLS offering and keep your current webhost.
- andybak 10y ago
  I'm personally in favour of Cloudflare as the simplest solution - even simpler than letsencrypt. However - there are a few caveats. They tend to hit some countries with a Captcha unless you disable it. Might not be an issue. Their "Flexible SSL is controversial as it only encrypts from client to them - not from them to the server. Personally I think this covers the most obvious threat models and is probably "good enough" for the a lot of use cases.
- slrz 10y ago
  What about actually solving the problem instead of tricking the user into believing their data is encrypted while being transferred to you?
fastball 10y ago
You have a few thousand active monthly users (since it's a web app that requires an account, I'm assuming that corresponds to 50-100k page views per month) and you can't recoup 10-20 EUR a month to cover server costs? I think it's time for a bit of light monetization.
- eru 10y ago
  Perhaps johndoe4589 doesn't want to monetize? (Asking users for donations might work where advertisement perhaps doesn't.)
lucideer 10y ago
I'm currently on OVH. If you've a tight budget, I'd highly recommend. They're a LetsEncrypt sponsor so they offer free SSL out of the box https://www.ovh.ie/news/articles/a2224.ovh-your-free-ssl-certificates-via-lets-encrypt https://www.ovh.ie/news/articles/a2224.ovh-your-free-ssl-cer...
robbiewxyz 10y ago
I think you could probably just point your DNS at Cloudflare to proxy your site through them; their service includes SSL plus some extras like caching and such for free. I've used them for a handful of projects and it's worked great.
- simcop2387 10y ago
  That said it will still be insecure because of the unencrypted path from cloudflare to you server but it will hire the error
  - andybak 10y ago
    For some definitions of "insecure".
    - andybak 10y ago
      Hmmmm. -4. I fleshed out my thoughts in slightly more detail in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13458224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13458224
  - Latty 10y ago
    Cloudflare will provide you with certificates they generate, that they verify but won't be accepted by anyone else. (No cost because of that) - this keeps the data secure between you are them. Obviously, you are still trusitng cloudflare in the middle, but still less trust required.
    - icebraining 10y ago
      If you can install a certificate, you can already get a real one from Lets Encrypt (you don't actually need to run their client on the server). The problem is that many shared hosting services are still stuck in the past, and don't let you use SSL/TLS at all.
      - 10y ago
vamur 10y ago
Try OVH. $3.5/mo for a 2GB RAM VPS https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/ https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/
andybak 10y ago
Webfaction still rock
michalskop 10y ago
Scaleway has 50G disc and 2G memory for 3€(+VAT)/month
icebraining 10y ago
LDHosting's shared hosting costs me 35€/year, gives 5GB of disk space and lets me upload my own cert for free. I've been with them for a few years and the uptime has been excellent.
joshstrange 10y ago
Dreamhost is in that price range and has LetsEncrypt built in (it's just a checkbox when configuring the domain). I don't use them for my real projects but it's great for blogs and low traffic sites (a couple thousand users should fair fine I'd think).
imron 10y ago
> I can only afford ~10-20 EUR a month on shared hosting atm. Sounds to me like you can move to a better host that does provide LetsEncrypt and save money on your hosting costs to boot!
johndoe4589 10y ago
Thanks so much for all the suggestions!
ldev 10y ago
https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=1587 https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=1587 9 EUR, 2 cores + 6 GB RAM, 40 GB SSD. It still baffles me that someone is using shared hosting services and upload their php files via ftp...

techwizrd 10y ago

Have you tried Amazon Lightsail or Digital Ocean? Both of them give you more than a paltry 1 GB for their $5/mo plans.

fastball 10y ago
Seconding DigitalOcean. You can get a 20GB SSD + 1000GB xfer for $5 a month.
- kuschku 10y ago
  Recommending against DigitalOcean: https://gist.github.com/justjanne/205cc548148829078d4bf2fd394f50ae https://gist.github.com/justjanne/205cc548148829078d4bf2fd39... TL;DR: Too expensive. (And, additionally, they tend to fuck over customers who paid for their money. "100$ free credit!". "You only need to pay 5$ to activate your free credit!". "Sorry, but because you didn’t use it, we removed your free credit!")

ycitm 10y ago

If you have control of your nameservers you can use cloudflare's free TLS offering and keep your current webhost.

andybak 10y ago
I'm personally in favour of Cloudflare as the simplest solution - even simpler than letsencrypt. However - there are a few caveats. They tend to hit some countries with a Captcha unless you disable it. Might not be an issue. Their "Flexible SSL is controversial as it only encrypts from client to them - not from them to the server. Personally I think this covers the most obvious threat models and is probably "good enough" for the a lot of use cases.
slrz 10y ago
What about actually solving the problem instead of tricking the user into believing their data is encrypted while being transferred to you?

fastball 10y ago

You have a few thousand active monthly users (since it's a web app that requires an account, I'm assuming that corresponds to 50-100k page views per month) and you can't recoup 10-20 EUR a month to cover server costs? I think it's time for a bit of light monetization.

eru 10y ago
Perhaps johndoe4589 doesn't want to monetize? (Asking users for donations might work where advertisement perhaps doesn't.)

lucideer 10y ago

I'm currently on OVH. If you've a tight budget, I'd highly recommend. They're a LetsEncrypt sponsor so they offer free SSL out of the box https://www.ovh.ie/news/articles/a2224.ovh-your-free-ssl-certificates-via-lets-encrypt https://www.ovh.ie/news/articles/a2224.ovh-your-free-ssl-cer...

robbiewxyz 10y ago

I think you could probably just point your DNS at Cloudflare to proxy your site through them; their service includes SSL plus some extras like caching and such for free. I've used them for a handful of projects and it's worked great.

simcop2387 10y ago
That said it will still be insecure because of the unencrypted path from cloudflare to you server but it will hire the error
- andybak 10y ago
  For some definitions of "insecure".
  - andybak 10y ago
    Hmmmm. -4. I fleshed out my thoughts in slightly more detail in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13458224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13458224
- Latty 10y ago
  Cloudflare will provide you with certificates they generate, that they verify but won't be accepted by anyone else. (No cost because of that) - this keeps the data secure between you are them. Obviously, you are still trusitng cloudflare in the middle, but still less trust required.
  - icebraining 10y ago
    If you can install a certificate, you can already get a real one from Lets Encrypt (you don't actually need to run their client on the server). The problem is that many shared hosting services are still stuck in the past, and don't let you use SSL/TLS at all.
    - 10y ago

vamur 10y ago

Try OVH. $3.5/mo for a 2GB RAM VPS https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/ https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/

andybak 10y ago

Webfaction still rock

michalskop 10y ago

Scaleway has 50G disc and 2G memory for 3€(+VAT)/month

icebraining 10y ago

LDHosting's shared hosting costs me 35€/year, gives 5GB of disk space and lets me upload my own cert for free. I've been with them for a few years and the uptime has been excellent.

joshstrange 10y ago

Dreamhost is in that price range and has LetsEncrypt built in (it's just a checkbox when configuring the domain). I don't use them for my real projects but it's great for blogs and low traffic sites (a couple thousand users should fair fine I'd think).

imron 10y ago

> I can only afford ~10-20 EUR a month on shared hosting atm. Sounds to me like you can move to a better host that does provide LetsEncrypt and save money on your hosting costs to boot!

johndoe4589 10y ago

Thanks so much for all the suggestions!

ldev 10y ago

https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=1587 https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=1587 9 EUR, 2 cores + 6 GB RAM, 40 GB SSD. It still baffles me that someone is using shared hosting services and upload their php files via ftp...