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The US is statistically racist: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/civil-rights-act-anniversary-racism-charts_n_5521104.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com

The US is statistically racist: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/civil-rights-act-anniversary-racism-charts_n_5521104.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/civil-rights-act-an... That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more. Things are getting better, but we are far from done with this fight. Anecdotally: I've lived on the west-coast, and the midwest/south. In both areas I have seen blatant racism take place both culturally by individuals, and systematically by police. As an American, I ashamedly disagree that this is at all libel.

mjolk 10y ago
Huffington Post is garbage. That link is full of correlation or data points and then ascribing racism.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  > That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.
vaadu 10y ago
The Huffington Post, really? They are nothing more that DNC staffers with bylines.
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- CaptSpify 10y ago
  > That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.
ftrflyr 10y ago
+1 For Huffington Post nonsense. That is your first problem. Stop reading that garbage.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  > That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.
refurb 10y ago
Nice try. None of those "stats" prove that the US is racist. It shows disparities based on race, but racism is one of many possible reasons. I could throw up a number of "stats" proving the US isn't racist (anymore than any other country).
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  So, the effects of our decisions end up with racist results, yet we aren't racists? If it acts like a duck...
  - refurb 10y ago
    Your brother got sick, that's proof you poisoned him. If it acts like a duck...
    - CaptSpify 10y ago
      k
  - mjolk 10y ago
    Your default is to attribute something you do not fully understand to racism? To trade folksy expressions, the boy who cried wolf...
    - CaptSpify 10y ago
      No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me. The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people. Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies.
      - mjolk 10y ago
        > No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me. No, you're going by anecdote and perception, which is why you fell back to "well I think it looks racist". > The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people. Who is we in this scenario? Keep in mind that you're trying to prove that the US is majority racist. > Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies. You stated "if it acts like a duck... (it's probably a duck)" to sidestep having to prove that the US is systematically racist. To you, it's not a lie and you've constructed a fallacy in which the onus would be to convince you, personally to change your perception. The expression applies because if everything and everyone is slated as racist, when actual racism happens, reports of it will just be lost in the noise.

mjolk 10y ago

Huffington Post is garbage. That link is full of correlation or data points and then ascribing racism.

CaptSpify 10y ago
> That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.

vaadu 10y ago

The Huffington Post, really? They are nothing more that DNC staffers with bylines.

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CaptSpify 10y ago
> That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.

ftrflyr 10y ago

+1 For Huffington Post nonsense. That is your first problem. Stop reading that garbage.

CaptSpify 10y ago
> That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.

refurb 10y ago

Nice try. None of those "stats" prove that the US is racist. It shows disparities based on race, but racism is one of many possible reasons. I could throw up a number of "stats" proving the US isn't racist (anymore than any other country).

CaptSpify 10y ago
So, the effects of our decisions end up with racist results, yet we aren't racists? If it acts like a duck...
- refurb 10y ago
  Your brother got sick, that's proof you poisoned him. If it acts like a duck...
  - CaptSpify 10y ago
    k
- mjolk 10y ago
  Your default is to attribute something you do not fully understand to racism? To trade folksy expressions, the boy who cried wolf...
  - CaptSpify 10y ago
    No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me. The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people. Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies.
    - mjolk 10y ago
      > No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me. No, you're going by anecdote and perception, which is why you fell back to "well I think it looks racist". > The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people. Who is we in this scenario? Keep in mind that you're trying to prove that the US is majority racist. > Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies. You stated "if it acts like a duck... (it's probably a duck)" to sidestep having to prove that the US is systematically racist. To you, it's not a lie and you've constructed a fallacy in which the onus would be to convince you, personally to change your perception. The expression applies because if everything and everyone is slated as racist, when actual racism happens, reports of it will just be lost in the noise.