Startup times are unpleasant, but my main reservation about the JVM is oracle. I invested a lot of time in learning clojure, but Oracle concerns me enough that

Startup times are unpleasant, but my main reservation about the JVM is oracle. I invested a lot of time in learning clojure, but Oracle concerns me enough that I'd rather not build my knowledge stack on them. So I've stopped using clojure. I may look into clojure script again in the future, but it still feels like a kludgey experience to me. Inspite of the amazing efforts by David Nolan and the community.