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Probably the only silver lining to be found in the new administration.

by meesterdude 10y ago

free2rhyme214 10y ago
Says a liberal ROFL
- dang 10y ago
  Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all.
williamle8300 10y ago
Well, it's only been one day. There's more to come. Power to the people of the United States!
paulddraper 10y ago
More soothsaying. It might temper your confidence to know that most forecasts have routinely been wrong about President Trump.
- meesterdude 10y ago
  he broke 34 of his promises on day 1 https://thinkprogress.org/on-his-first-day-in-office-trump-broke-34-promises-683c957286dc https://thinkprogress.org/on-his-first-day-in-office-trump-b...
  - paulddraper 10y ago
    So even his own forecasts are wrong :) More seriously, they might not complete on day 1, but many will happen. E.g. your article lists the TPP withdrawl was a broken "day 1" promise. How long did that take? Couldn't have been much more than 24 hours...
    - xienze 10y ago
      Well that's how the "Trump is such a liar" stuff works. Take everything he says 100% literally with no wiggle room and wow, look at all those promises he broke. He said he'd do this the first day, it's actually the second day! What a complete fraud this guy is!
      - meesterdude 10y ago
        This is not normal. Trump is not normal. Do not act like this is just any old election. Millions of people in the USA and around the world do not normally march in protest of our elections. Oh yeah, and trump is a liar. That's very well documented - and just a google search away. But I'm not really concerned with if he's a liar or not. I just care about what he ends up doing. I do not suspect I will like it very much - but I would LOVE to be wrong.
  - xienze 10y ago
    So I kinda understand, but at the same time don't understand the point of articles like this. "Ha ha, Trump didn't do all those awful things that he said he would on the very first day!" Shouldn't that make people who are against Trump happy? I know, I know, the point is that people who are apparently smart but don't understand the concept of hyperbole can say "LOL Trump lied again, he said he'd do all this stuff on day one but he didn't until day three, you Trump voters got taken for a ride!"
    - Malician 10y ago
      People don't like a wildcard. Trump's broken promises are a little more than slight exaggerations. At this point I have to wonder if it's possible for him to lie in a way he hasn't already which will lead his supporters to recognize it as more than hyperbole. My guess is that it's not about what he says, but whether they feel he is acting in favor of their interests or not - which is really a totally different matter. He just stood up in front of the CIA and claimed that he had more people than any Inauguration. In reality, he had less than half. The man has 0 integrity. It's not just one thing, it's everything he says. Hillary had a public and a private position - he's got so many positions his words mean nothing. Yes, he really does seem to be behind reducing immigration. Yes, I can guess that when he stood up and told Silicon Valley's CEOs he was going to remove the borders and trade restrictions, he was probably lying. But in the end, the details are what matter, and for him to violate every single thing he says in favor of vague wishy-washy nonsense is not someone I can trust as President.
      - DefaultUserHN 10y ago
        >He just stood up in front of the CIA and claimed that he had more people than any Inauguration. Except he didn't. I watched that press conference. He said he had lots and lots of people. He never said he had more people than Obama. He was calling out CNN because CNN was trying to make it seem like had less than half. >In reality, he had less than half. Except we have photos showing he have almost the same as Obama. Around 90% of Obama. https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg https://i.redd.it/gvwobqfr0yay.jpg https://i.redd.it/gvwobqfr0yay.jpg The photo you saw probably came from CNN. CNN posted a photo from earlier in the day, before people started filling it up, and claimed that Trump only had half the people. http://i.imgur.com/cLiofdu.png http://i.imgur.com/cLiofdu.png Here's a photo closer to the end, showing the crowds goes all the way to the back, almost comparable to Obama. https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=02d97ed976b28d2805de75338613859e https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f...
- TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
  His press secretary is already blatantly lying to the media and complaining that they reported the news accurately, so that surely bodes well.
  - treehau5 10y ago
    Opposed to the polite kind of lying the previous administration engaged in. At least I get my bullshit upfront with this guy.
    - maverick_iceman 10y ago
      "If you like your insurance, you'll keep your insurance."
      - treehau5 10y ago
        that's just the icing on the cake. There's all that "collateral damage" via drone strikes, and then his stepping all over the constitution, nothing to see here folks, move it along. The loaded gun that Obama left for Trump is what terrifies me the most. Trump has been shown the way on what to do when you want to take out a citizen without due process of law. I am hopeful that all the disdain against Trump will result in a peeling back of these abuses that Obama pioneered, even more so than his predecessor, Mr. Bush. http://reason.com/archives/2017/01/10/goodbye-obama http://reason.com/archives/2017/01/10/goodbye-obama
      - paulddraper 10y ago
        Politifact honored that utterance as Lie of the Year in 2013. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/...
    - wavefunction 10y ago
      What does your comment even mean? According to you, you're getting lied to either way.
noobermin 10y ago
Here's my take. Look at Rex Tillerson, and a lot of others in his cabinet, not to mention Trump's donors. This looks more to me like the speech did, claim to bring power back to the people and then end a regulation that would yield savings for homeowners on their mortgages a couple hours later. Claim to want healthcare for all and not really put forward with a replacement, but continue the route towards repeal. Claim to be against "global financial interests" then appoint rich, wealthy donors to his cabinet and not to mention a number of former Goldman Sachs employees. The point is a lot of money on the line. Being against TPP is good politics, but it doesn't fly well with those who funded him. I am worried what happened with the ethics office will happen here: they tried it, be blown back by the bad rep it gets, reverse course, then pass rules that limit the ethics office anyway when no ones looking. I have a feeling that Trump is doing this for press now, but a form of the TPP will pass anyway because there is just too much money on the line.
dang 10y ago
Please don't post generic partisan comments. They lead to generic partisan flamewars.

Probably the only silver lining to be found in the new administration.

free2rhyme214 10y ago

Says a liberal ROFL

dang 10y ago
Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all.

williamle8300 10y ago

Well, it's only been one day. There's more to come. Power to the people of the United States!

paulddraper 10y ago

More soothsaying. It might temper your confidence to know that most forecasts have routinely been wrong about President Trump.

meesterdude 10y ago
he broke 34 of his promises on day 1 https://thinkprogress.org/on-his-first-day-in-office-trump-broke-34-promises-683c957286dc https://thinkprogress.org/on-his-first-day-in-office-trump-b...
- paulddraper 10y ago
  So even his own forecasts are wrong :) More seriously, they might not complete on day 1, but many will happen. E.g. your article lists the TPP withdrawl was a broken "day 1" promise. How long did that take? Couldn't have been much more than 24 hours...
  - xienze 10y ago
    Well that's how the "Trump is such a liar" stuff works. Take everything he says 100% literally with no wiggle room and wow, look at all those promises he broke. He said he'd do this the first day, it's actually the second day! What a complete fraud this guy is!
    - meesterdude 10y ago
      This is not normal. Trump is not normal. Do not act like this is just any old election. Millions of people in the USA and around the world do not normally march in protest of our elections. Oh yeah, and trump is a liar. That's very well documented - and just a google search away. But I'm not really concerned with if he's a liar or not. I just care about what he ends up doing. I do not suspect I will like it very much - but I would LOVE to be wrong.
- xienze 10y ago
  So I kinda understand, but at the same time don't understand the point of articles like this. "Ha ha, Trump didn't do all those awful things that he said he would on the very first day!" Shouldn't that make people who are against Trump happy? I know, I know, the point is that people who are apparently smart but don't understand the concept of hyperbole can say "LOL Trump lied again, he said he'd do all this stuff on day one but he didn't until day three, you Trump voters got taken for a ride!"
  - Malician 10y ago
    People don't like a wildcard. Trump's broken promises are a little more than slight exaggerations. At this point I have to wonder if it's possible for him to lie in a way he hasn't already which will lead his supporters to recognize it as more than hyperbole. My guess is that it's not about what he says, but whether they feel he is acting in favor of their interests or not - which is really a totally different matter. He just stood up in front of the CIA and claimed that he had more people than any Inauguration. In reality, he had less than half. The man has 0 integrity. It's not just one thing, it's everything he says. Hillary had a public and a private position - he's got so many positions his words mean nothing. Yes, he really does seem to be behind reducing immigration. Yes, I can guess that when he stood up and told Silicon Valley's CEOs he was going to remove the borders and trade restrictions, he was probably lying. But in the end, the details are what matter, and for him to violate every single thing he says in favor of vague wishy-washy nonsense is not someone I can trust as President.
    - DefaultUserHN 10y ago
      >He just stood up in front of the CIA and claimed that he had more people than any Inauguration. Except he didn't. I watched that press conference. He said he had lots and lots of people. He never said he had more people than Obama. He was calling out CNN because CNN was trying to make it seem like had less than half. >In reality, he had less than half. Except we have photos showing he have almost the same as Obama. Around 90% of Obama. https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg https://i.redd.it/romblz2zsxay.jpg https://i.redd.it/gvwobqfr0yay.jpg https://i.redd.it/gvwobqfr0yay.jpg The photo you saw probably came from CNN. CNN posted a photo from earlier in the day, before people started filling it up, and claimed that Trump only had half the people. http://i.imgur.com/cLiofdu.png http://i.imgur.com/cLiofdu.png Here's a photo closer to the end, showing the crowds goes all the way to the back, almost comparable to Obama. https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=02d97ed976b28d2805de75338613859e https://i.reddituploads.com/a3495b511eed42509c6f3a82b853996f...
TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
His press secretary is already blatantly lying to the media and complaining that they reported the news accurately, so that surely bodes well.
- treehau5 10y ago
  Opposed to the polite kind of lying the previous administration engaged in. At least I get my bullshit upfront with this guy.
  - maverick_iceman 10y ago
    "If you like your insurance, you'll keep your insurance."
    - treehau5 10y ago
      that's just the icing on the cake. There's all that "collateral damage" via drone strikes, and then his stepping all over the constitution, nothing to see here folks, move it along. The loaded gun that Obama left for Trump is what terrifies me the most. Trump has been shown the way on what to do when you want to take out a citizen without due process of law. I am hopeful that all the disdain against Trump will result in a peeling back of these abuses that Obama pioneered, even more so than his predecessor, Mr. Bush. http://reason.com/archives/2017/01/10/goodbye-obama http://reason.com/archives/2017/01/10/goodbye-obama
    - paulddraper 10y ago
      Politifact honored that utterance as Lie of the Year in 2013. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/...
  - wavefunction 10y ago
    What does your comment even mean? According to you, you're getting lied to either way.

noobermin 10y ago

Here's my take. Look at Rex Tillerson, and a lot of others in his cabinet, not to mention Trump's donors. This looks more to me like the speech did, claim to bring power back to the people and then end a regulation that would yield savings for homeowners on their mortgages a couple hours later. Claim to want healthcare for all and not really put forward with a replacement, but continue the route towards repeal. Claim to be against "global financial interests" then appoint rich, wealthy donors to his cabinet and not to mention a number of former Goldman Sachs employees. The point is a lot of money on the line. Being against TPP is good politics, but it doesn't fly well with those who funded him. I am worried what happened with the ethics office will happen here: they tried it, be blown back by the bad rep it gets, reverse course, then pass rules that limit the ethics office anyway when no ones looking. I have a feeling that Trump is doing this for press now, but a form of the TPP will pass anyway because there is just too much money on the line.

dang 10y ago

Please don't post generic partisan comments. They lead to generic partisan flamewars.