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It's only illegal if they can prove that you discriminated based on their age. This is why companies never tell a prospective hire why they've declined to hire

by abduhl 10y ago

It's only illegal if they can prove that you discriminated based on their age. This is why companies never tell a prospective hire why they've declined to hire them, instead they just tell them that it's a poor culture fit. Poor culture fits aren't illegal, so you can feel safe not hiring based on culture. Especially if the part of their culture that doesn't fit is a protected class.

jimnotgym 10y ago
Again, its only an issue for bad companies, with bad employment practices. The rest of us will be unaffected by the restriction
- tabeth 10y ago
  > Again, its only an issue for bad companies, with bad employment practices. The rest of us will be unaffected by the restriction Don't you feel that this attitude is dismissive?
  - jimnotgym 10y ago
    I'm hiring right now, into a critical role for me. I have lots of questions for new candidates about what they were doing before at previous employers. However I will not feel the need to ask what they are paid. I have been asked it on several occasions and every time it was an attempt to pay me less than the company had advertised for the role. I can think of so many reasons why someone's pay may have been out of step with their role in the past, and none of it is relevant to how I wish to inventivise them now. So no I don't think it is dismissive
JoshTriplett 10y ago
> It's only illegal if they can prove that you discriminated based on their age. If at any time during the interview the employer asks the candidate's age (or any other protected information), the candidate will have a much easier time making a case for that.
- jimnotgym 10y ago
  On the other hand candidates in the UK (at least) are in the habit of putting dates on their CV for the major events in their life, like school leaving and Uni graduation...so age is kinda obvious. It is of course OK to seek candidates that are 'early in their careers', as long as you wouldn't turn away an inexperienced older person (and I have employed career changers who were evidently much older than other candidates). Again it is no issue for good employers
  - JoshTriplett 10y ago
    > On the other hand candidates in the UK (at least) are in the habit of putting dates on their CV for the major events in their life, like school leaving and Uni graduation...so age is kinda obvious. True, at least in the most common case. A name on a CV can also suggest nationality and gender, and multiple studies have shown that the name on a CV alone can significantly change the response to an otherwise identical CV.

by abduhl 10y ago

jimnotgym 10y ago

Again, its only an issue for bad companies, with bad employment practices. The rest of us will be unaffected by the restriction

tabeth 10y ago
> Again, its only an issue for bad companies, with bad employment practices. The rest of us will be unaffected by the restriction Don't you feel that this attitude is dismissive?
- jimnotgym 10y ago
  I'm hiring right now, into a critical role for me. I have lots of questions for new candidates about what they were doing before at previous employers. However I will not feel the need to ask what they are paid. I have been asked it on several occasions and every time it was an attempt to pay me less than the company had advertised for the role. I can think of so many reasons why someone's pay may have been out of step with their role in the past, and none of it is relevant to how I wish to inventivise them now. So no I don't think it is dismissive

JoshTriplett 10y ago

> It's only illegal if they can prove that you discriminated based on their age. If at any time during the interview the employer asks the candidate's age (or any other protected information), the candidate will have a much easier time making a case for that.

jimnotgym 10y ago
On the other hand candidates in the UK (at least) are in the habit of putting dates on their CV for the major events in their life, like school leaving and Uni graduation...so age is kinda obvious. It is of course OK to seek candidates that are 'early in their careers', as long as you wouldn't turn away an inexperienced older person (and I have employed career changers who were evidently much older than other candidates). Again it is no issue for good employers
- JoshTriplett 10y ago
  > On the other hand candidates in the UK (at least) are in the habit of putting dates on their CV for the major events in their life, like school leaving and Uni graduation...so age is kinda obvious. True, at least in the most common case. A name on a CV can also suggest nationality and gender, and multiple studies have shown that the name on a CV alone can significantly change the response to an otherwise identical CV.