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This is truly brilliant. Why do we complete underestimate the power of intangible forces? Nuclear weapons are BIG concern and very tangible. Education/Propog

This is truly brilliant. Why do we complete underestimate the power of intangible forces? Nuclear weapons are BIG concern and very tangible. Education/Propoganda are arguably equally as much of a concern for the human race...but they're intangible.. so they're taken much less seriously. I also love the idea presented here of tribal class vs the business/political class. It explains the current nationalism so well. I'd argue that everyone is Tribalistic, just people in bigger cities consider their tribe to be entirety of humanity because of exposure to so many different types of people daily vs people in small towns who are in contact with fewer people thus have much smaller tribes.

gambiting 10y ago
>>Nuclear weapons are BIG concern and very tangible. I'm not saying that they aren't a big concern, but are nukes really that tangible? Unless you live in Russia, where nukes are literally paraded on the red square every year, how do you feel their presence? I mean, as far as I know, the government could by lying about having any. They are all stashed in submarines or silos somewhere, luckily it's unlikely that we will ever see one detonate, for your average John Smith nukes could as well be terrawatt lasers mounted on the moon. I wouldn't call them tangiable I don't think.
- imartin2k 10y ago
  I'd call them tangible in the sense that most people, if not all, respond with emotions of fear or anxiety when hearing about that a country might use nuclear weapons (if not openly, at least neurologically).
- id 10y ago
  > Unless you live in Russia, where nukes are literally paraded on the red square every year Could be America soon.
  - wott 10y ago
    I thought you were going to switch to coal missiles?
    - dsfyu404ed 10y ago
      Well if you can convince your .gov to buy them we'll happily design a coal warhead and sell you the missiles.
pjmorris 10y ago
> I'd argue that everyone is Tribalistic, just people in bigger cities consider their tribe to be entirety of humanity because of exposure to so many different types of people I love the optimism of this notion. I may be jaded and cynical, but I fear that 'big city people' see their tribe to be other 'big city people' rather than the entirety of humanity. I came from a small town to a variety of big cities, and have met more people who are proud of having made that transition than those who retain a deep loyalty to the kind of people they left behind.
- dsfyu404ed 10y ago
  >and have met more people who are proud of having made that transition than those who retain a deep loyalty to the kind of people they left behind This is the part that angers me the most when I see it because these are the people who should know that the world isn't limited to just the people who have some set of things in common with themselves yet when they don't but have such an obvious example in their own lives it's frustrating.

gambiting 10y ago

>>Nuclear weapons are BIG concern and very tangible. I'm not saying that they aren't a big concern, but are nukes really that tangible? Unless you live in Russia, where nukes are literally paraded on the red square every year, how do you feel their presence? I mean, as far as I know, the government could by lying about having any. They are all stashed in submarines or silos somewhere, luckily it's unlikely that we will ever see one detonate, for your average John Smith nukes could as well be terrawatt lasers mounted on the moon. I wouldn't call them tangiable I don't think.

imartin2k 10y ago
I'd call them tangible in the sense that most people, if not all, respond with emotions of fear or anxiety when hearing about that a country might use nuclear weapons (if not openly, at least neurologically).
id 10y ago
> Unless you live in Russia, where nukes are literally paraded on the red square every year Could be America soon.
- wott 10y ago
  I thought you were going to switch to coal missiles?
  - dsfyu404ed 10y ago
    Well if you can convince your .gov to buy them we'll happily design a coal warhead and sell you the missiles.

pjmorris 10y ago

> I'd argue that everyone is Tribalistic, just people in bigger cities consider their tribe to be entirety of humanity because of exposure to so many different types of people I love the optimism of this notion. I may be jaded and cynical, but I fear that 'big city people' see their tribe to be other 'big city people' rather than the entirety of humanity. I came from a small town to a variety of big cities, and have met more people who are proud of having made that transition than those who retain a deep loyalty to the kind of people they left behind.

dsfyu404ed 10y ago
>and have met more people who are proud of having made that transition than those who retain a deep loyalty to the kind of people they left behind This is the part that angers me the most when I see it because these are the people who should know that the world isn't limited to just the people who have some set of things in common with themselves yet when they don't but have such an obvious example in their own lives it's frustrating.