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It's great to see this list. As an Erlanger there's one thing that's started to bother me of late, and that's how subdued and declining the community feels. T
by im_down_w_otp 10y ago
It's great to see this list. As an Erlanger there's one thing that's started to bother me of late, and that's how subdued and declining the community feels. There are a handful of passionate and capable people making great strides to improve things (rebar3 is excellent for instance), but the momentum seems to be all behind Elixir these days.
Most of the action around Erlang (conferences, etc.) seems rooted in nostalgia not in finding ways to connect to new users or new use cases. Looking at the speaker list for Erlang Factory 2017 I'm trying to figure out why there's nobody from Whatsapp, MZ, Facebook, Amazon, Visa, Goldman Sachs, etc., and why so many of the speakers are repeats of years past (in some cases multiple times over multiple years past).
Despite having a ~15 year head start, and some really high-profile use cases, it seems like the Erlang powers-that-be haven't figured out how to capitalize on much of that, and it's a real bummer for people in my situation (and I'd argue the industry as a whole is worse off for it too). I'd really like to have my team use Erlang, but I'm feeling increasingly irresponsible suggesting they invest in it instead of Elixir.
- dxhdr 10y agoErlang Just Works(tm) for me, I have a problem and I write code to solve it, no whiz-bang new features or frameworks needed. That said I do partially agree, in particular advancing the state-of-the art in regards to inspecting and debugging would be great. Rebar3 is indeed excellent!
- im_down_w_otp 10y agoI totally agree. It just works for me too. That's why I prefer it. But it needs new users and new use cases to stay relevant and to be defensible as an investment of time, money, and people in companies and enterprises that are willing to depart from the traditional strongholds of Java or whatever the latest thing out of Google is unfortunately. To say nothing of the more risk averse institutions, which are vast and numerous. Given how great it is I'm often at a loss for why it's ecosystem feels stagnant and much of its evangelism (what little there is to begin with) appears unable to build much excitement. :-( Anyway, back to Erlanging and hoping more people discover how pleasant, simple, and robust it can be.