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What you think others will benefit from should have not bearing on regulation in my opinion. I am prefectly happy paying $10 a month for an internet connection

by tn13 10y ago

What you think others will benefit from should have not bearing on regulation in my opinion. I am prefectly happy paying $10 a month for an internet connection that plays just netflix and nothing else to give you an example.

rashkov 10y ago
Let's say you want to start a new service called flerptube. You can do that today -- write the code, get the content, and put it up on AWS. Then it's up to the market to try out your product and make you king of streaming. You can do that because of net neutrality. Without net neutrality you would have to ask permission from the cable companies, who see you as a threat to their own cable television offerings. They'll either refuse to work with you, or cut you a terrible deal. I'm not saying that others benefit from net neutrality -- I'm saying that you do as a customer, and you do as a business owner.
- NoPiece 10y ago
  There was no net neutrality into Feb 2015, and it didn't stop the creation of YouTube, Netflix, Vimeo, DailyMotion, etc.. They didn't have to ask ISP permission. We are just going to the state of existence that has been the norm for most of existence of internet.
  - wmf 10y ago
    I would say there was de facto net neutrality because ISPs acted neutrally even though it wasn't mandated by law. Around ten years ago ISPs started being evil and the FCC's regulations are a response to that. I still wonder what caused ISPs to abandon ~20 years of neutrality.
    - shostack 10y ago
      Perhaps streaming became good enough and cheap enough to offer viable competition to cable such that cord cutting became a thing.
serge2k 10y ago
> What you think others will benefit from should have not bearing on regulation in my opinion That is literally why every regulation gets passed. Because someone thinks someone will benefit.
Frondo 10y ago
Of course it should. Opinion -> voting -> regulation is basically democracy in a nutshell.

by tn13 10y ago

rashkov 10y ago

Let's say you want to start a new service called flerptube. You can do that today -- write the code, get the content, and put it up on AWS. Then it's up to the market to try out your product and make you king of streaming. You can do that because of net neutrality. Without net neutrality you would have to ask permission from the cable companies, who see you as a threat to their own cable television offerings. They'll either refuse to work with you, or cut you a terrible deal. I'm not saying that others benefit from net neutrality -- I'm saying that you do as a customer, and you do as a business owner.

NoPiece 10y ago
There was no net neutrality into Feb 2015, and it didn't stop the creation of YouTube, Netflix, Vimeo, DailyMotion, etc.. They didn't have to ask ISP permission. We are just going to the state of existence that has been the norm for most of existence of internet.
- wmf 10y ago
  I would say there was de facto net neutrality because ISPs acted neutrally even though it wasn't mandated by law. Around ten years ago ISPs started being evil and the FCC's regulations are a response to that. I still wonder what caused ISPs to abandon ~20 years of neutrality.
  - shostack 10y ago
    Perhaps streaming became good enough and cheap enough to offer viable competition to cable such that cord cutting became a thing.

serge2k 10y ago

> What you think others will benefit from should have not bearing on regulation in my opinion That is literally why every regulation gets passed. Because someone thinks someone will benefit.

Frondo 10y ago

Of course it should. Opinion -> voting -> regulation is basically democracy in a nutshell.