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You should stop trying to paint me as evil and instead read what I'm writing. You're also ignoring the point: There is zero societal value in providing cheap c
by wang_li 10y ago
You should stop trying to paint me as evil and instead read what I'm writing.
You're also ignoring the point: There is zero societal value in providing cheap college to a student who, for whatever reasons, has dropped out of school in the eighth grade. We need to fix high school, not college.
And as far as providing for those who are ready, do you have any statistics that show that students who would benefit from college are unable to do so? We provide tax breaks for colleges and universities, we have grants available for needy students, we have subsidized loans available for most every student. The average student loan debt in 2016 was ~$30,000. The lifetime earnings benefit of having a bachelors degree is $600,000 - $900,000. There doesn't seem to be a college access problem.
- wpietri 10y agoI have read what you're writing, thanks. That point is different than the one you made previously, and is much narrower. Plenty of people are excited to fix high school. But you're saying we should refuse to improve college access until high school is comprehensively fixed. (And you ignore all the other problems that reduce readiness for college besides high schools.) Sorry, why should I provide statistics that you can readily look up since you're the one claiming you already have all the answers here? It's not my job to forcibly educate you one study at a time. Especially since you demonstrate no willingness to actually understand the problem.