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mynameisvlad 10y ago
I would say it's not that he's incorrect more that he's off-topic. The changing of truth doesn't really have anything at all to do with an appeal to authority fallacy because said fallacy is based on the thoughts of the time. We can't possibly know how scientists are going to think 150 years from now, so we can't appeal to their authority. So while, yes, he is accurate that our knowledge of the world around us and of Science changes over time, that has nothing to do with the fallacies we're discussing.
EGreg 10y ago
Looks like you got downvoted also. I wonder if downvoters run in packs. I expect them to downvote this and not reply with any reason to either post. EDIT: I was right :)
- maxerickson 10y ago
  I downvoted this one just to push your buttons (it's a pune!). I didn't vote either way on the other comments.
- pvg 10y ago
  Nobody owes you a reason for disagreeing with you and simply downvoting. The site guidelines do ask you not to go on about downvoting, though.
  - iwlbebnd 10y ago
    Because once you defunct the bad argument, and concisely prove that arguments from authorizity are illegitimate the next step is to silence the person with force. His comments are dead and they are entirely reasonable. Look up the history of the argument from authority, it is explicitly used by those in power to reject those not in power. It has nothing to do with whoever claims whether an expertise is legitimate or not. Edit: You're right, only one dead comment, the substantive one is just whited out to illegitibility because he dare has the teremity to challenge the crypto experts. Look, the people who signed the statement make up like 30% of this thread, it's completely rediculous, they are here to control dissent and flag and down vote those who challenge their authority.HN certainly isn't a place to have an open and free discussion when there's such an obvious gap in power and equality between users.
    - pvg 10y ago
      He has one dead comment which just complains about downvoting and contains no argument. I'm not sure what you mean by 'defunct'.
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I would say it's not that he's incorrect more that he's off-topic. The changing of truth doesn't really have anything at all to do with an appeal to authority fallacy because said fallacy is based on the thoughts of the time. We can't possibly know how scientists are going to think 150 years from now, so we can't appeal to their authority. So while, yes, he is accurate that our knowledge of the world around us and of Science changes over time, that has nothing to do with the fallacies we're discussing.

EGreg 10y ago

Looks like you got downvoted also. I wonder if downvoters run in packs. I expect them to downvote this and not reply with any reason to either post. EDIT: I was right :)

maxerickson 10y ago
I downvoted this one just to push your buttons (it's a pune!). I didn't vote either way on the other comments.
pvg 10y ago
Nobody owes you a reason for disagreeing with you and simply downvoting. The site guidelines do ask you not to go on about downvoting, though.
- iwlbebnd 10y ago
  Because once you defunct the bad argument, and concisely prove that arguments from authorizity are illegitimate the next step is to silence the person with force. His comments are dead and they are entirely reasonable. Look up the history of the argument from authority, it is explicitly used by those in power to reject those not in power. It has nothing to do with whoever claims whether an expertise is legitimate or not. Edit: You're right, only one dead comment, the substantive one is just whited out to illegitibility because he dare has the teremity to challenge the crypto experts. Look, the people who signed the statement make up like 30% of this thread, it's completely rediculous, they are here to control dissent and flag and down vote those who challenge their authority.HN certainly isn't a place to have an open and free discussion when there's such an obvious gap in power and equality between users.
  - pvg 10y ago
    He has one dead comment which just complains about downvoting and contains no argument. I'm not sure what you mean by 'defunct'.
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