>Then again, I also think that bars with parking lots are a significant issue as well, as it encourages patrons to drive there, drink (possibly to drunk) and th

>Then again, I also think that bars with parking lots are a significant issue as well, as it encourages patrons to drive there, drink (possibly to drunk) and then leave in their vehicle. I somehow have the feeling that bars WITHOUT parking lots will have less clients ... A solution could be bars with parking lots 1 mile away and courtesy bikes, but I guess that cycling accidents and bycicle thefts would have an instant surge ... More seriously, you drive to the bar parking lot, and while you are perfectly sober, you decide to get drunk (beyond legal limits). While you may well be right that the decision to drive is based on intoxication, the decision to get intoxicated is taken based on consent, knowing that you got there driving a car... AFAICU legal limits are fairly low so you should be sober enough when you order the "yet another" drink.