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"You have never seen a drunk woman acting unappropriated to a man?" I've used my personal experience, sampled over thirty years as the metric. It's the only da
by fsloth 10y ago
"You have never seen a drunk woman acting unappropriated to a man?"
I've used my personal experience, sampled over thirty years as the metric. It's the only data set I can approach with some certainty it's not polluted with observer bias. I've never been personally assaulted in such a way. I did not deny the large spectrum of abusive behaviours that exist.
To quote myself:
"Yes, sexual and psychological violence goes both ways, but still females are more often the victims."
The original post was about experiences of sexual harassment and I stated few statistical reasons that come to my mind that can cause it.
There is a tendency for some reason to disregard these sorts of claims "because that happens to everybody". No. That's just wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. Like in engineering, in social settings problems need to be tackled one at a time. That some men suffer violent attacks from some women does not make it right that some women are sexually assaulted by some men.
The male to female "sexual predator" pattern is a specific pathology that exists and needs to be taken seriously. Just like female to male "violent abuse without retribution" is another - but different kind.
Men don't need to "man up" just like "boys will be boys" is not an acceptable defence.
I would like to point out that women were more like capital and not like free citizens even in the most progressive countries until hundred years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage.
Values and attitudes travel across generations. These affect stereotypes, which affect our mental processing even if one is against said stereotypes. There is a very good reason females can be still considered statistical underdogs for a while - the fact that can be abused by predatory individuals as a shield with impunity. The fact that these abuses happen, do not mean we should not still be in general vigilant in upholding female rights for a few generations still.
- fapjacks 10y ago> with some certainty it's not polluted with observer bias Except, of course, your bias, which is pretty clear. I think you'd be surprised at what we do to our own memories.