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A recent, and difficult to listen to, ted talk around harassment on social media this by Ashley Judd. http://www.ted.com/talks/ashley_judd_how_online_abuse_of_
by roomey 10y ago
A recent, and difficult to listen to, ted talk around harassment on social media this by Ashley Judd.
http://www.ted.com/talks/ashley_judd_how_online_abuse_of_women_has_spiraled_out_of_control http://www.ted.com/talks/ashley_judd_how_online_abuse_of_wom...
It is beyond me where this level of vitriol is coming from, are women that threatening?
- henrebotha 10y agoAn eye-opening idea for me was the concept that it is not women that are fragile, but men. The slightest indication of a threat to masculinity sends men into a fit of rage.
- MagnumOpus 10y agoAn eye-opening idea for me was the concept that generalisations that pertain to millions (let alone billions) of people are invariably wrong. If you'd have worded it "The slightest indication of a threat to masculinity sends some men into a fit of rage" you might have had a point, rather than sounding like a troll.
- zigzigzag 10y agoYes, many men feel threatened by feminists (which are of course not all women by a long shot). They have a habit of pushing for policy changes, social changes and the creation of new taboos that artificially tip the world towards themselves, at the expense of men who are typically not sexist or doing very much at all. In tech, they have successfully created an environment where women have an advantage when getting jobs and especially when not getting fired. They on the other hand are able to get men fired at other companies, merely by claiming to be offended at comments they overhead: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes-got-two-people-fired-and-led-to-ddos-attacks/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes-... Feminists, and the women who wrote this blog post appears to be one, routinely attack men in all sorts of ways. It triggers reactions back, many of which are unpleasant and nasty.
- FeepingCreature 10y agoImportant to notice that of course this does not license harassment. The ground truth is that harassing behavior, which is what's called out in this post, must be stopped. But independent of that, some men who are not harassers themselves also have grounds to be afraid of some feminists, and that is also an injustice. Just because you're a victim doesn't mean you can do no harm.
- roomey 10y agoSimilar to how many majorities are threatened by minorities, due to some fear that they may lose power. Nothing new here I suppose. Just ridiculous that it happens however, or that this meme is tolerated. "Yes they get all the good jobs, you can tell because there are so many more women then men working in tech"
- spuz 10y agoI think this is a complete red herring. First of all, feminist refers to someone who believes men and women should have equal rights. I don't know anyone who is not a feminist and I would like to know if you can name someone who isn't. Using that label to describe people who routinely attack men seems completely wrong. Secondly, where is the evidence that people who harass and abuse women online are doing it because they feel their rights and their jobs are under threat? I'm not saying there are not people like that but if you really want to change society as a whole, why would you do it by trying to attack individual women? Could it not be that these men are simply narcissistic assholes who gain pleasure by hurting women?
- zigzigzag 10y agoThat's not the definition of feminist I'm using, nor is it the definition I ever see actually in use. That's what it used to mean, maybe, but these days it refers to someone (usually but not always a woman) who has built "women are oppressed and we must fix it" into their identity, such that they support many discriminatory policies as long as they are in favour of women. In other words it has stopped being about equal rights. Now it's about better rights for women. where is the evidence that people who harass and abuse women online are doing it because they feel their rights and their jobs are under threat There is a well established history at this point of outspoken 'feminists' (using the above definition) attracting disproportionate amounts of hate online. The reason is pretty simple: they dish it out themselves.