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Never been to /r/unixporn but ricing my desktop and Linux os is what taught me Linux to the point of becoming an SA, then an SE. Amazing way to learn Linux.

by NovaS1X 10y ago

lacampbell 10y ago
SA = System Administrator, SE = Software Engineer?
- NovaS1X 10y ago
  Systems Engineer. Started as an SA, worked my way to SE, but being a Linux hobbyist is what taught me all my knowledge on Unix. Never went to University. What the guys on /r/unixporn do is pretty much what I'd do with my OS, but add the networking and server-side stuff too.
  - distances 10y ago
    This probably highly varies by country/region, but here (Central/Northern Europe) using the title "Engineer" usually implies having an engineer's degree, which here is basically M.Sc. in a technical university.
    - NovaS1X 10y ago
      Yes it does here too, but for some reason in IT it doesn't matter. I don't know why this is, but there are many titles like Systems Engineer, Software Engineer, Database Engineer, Network Engineer, etc. These titles are not uncommon and they usually don't have hard requirements on degrees or group membership like "real" engineering fields such as Mechanical Engineering or Electrical Engineering does. I know this is true in Canada, and have heard this is also true in the US, but I'm not sure about other countries. They're all skilled nonetheless.
    - Daviey 10y ago
      I couldn't disagree more, i'm based in the UK.. but I've worked internationally with engineers varying from without college education to people with PhD's... both are competent in their area of expertise and are right in calling themselves engineers.
      - distances 10y ago
        In some areas use of the title "Engineer" is regulated. I'm not claiming what's right or wrong on this, just stating how things are. From Wikipedia [1]: "The practice of engineering in the UK is not a regulated profession [...] In Continental Europe, Latin America, Turkey and elsewhere the title is limited by law to people with an engineering degree and the use of the title by others is illegal." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer#Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer#Regulation
  - lacampbell 10y ago
    I confess I don't really know what a systems engineer is. I know a Sysadmins as "lifesavers who can deal with the monstrosity of modern operating systems and communication between them". But never heard of a Systems Engineer.

Never been to /r/unixporn but ricing my desktop and Linux os is what taught me Linux to the point of becoming an SA, then an SE. Amazing way to learn Linux.

by NovaS1X 10y ago

Never been to /r/unixporn but ricing my desktop and Linux os is what taught me Linux to the point of becoming an SA, then an SE. Amazing way to learn Linux.

lacampbell 10y ago

SA = System Administrator, SE = Software Engineer?

NovaS1X 10y ago
Systems Engineer. Started as an SA, worked my way to SE, but being a Linux hobbyist is what taught me all my knowledge on Unix. Never went to University. What the guys on /r/unixporn do is pretty much what I'd do with my OS, but add the networking and server-side stuff too.
- distances 10y ago
  This probably highly varies by country/region, but here (Central/Northern Europe) using the title "Engineer" usually implies having an engineer's degree, which here is basically M.Sc. in a technical university.
  - NovaS1X 10y ago
    Yes it does here too, but for some reason in IT it doesn't matter. I don't know why this is, but there are many titles like Systems Engineer, Software Engineer, Database Engineer, Network Engineer, etc. These titles are not uncommon and they usually don't have hard requirements on degrees or group membership like "real" engineering fields such as Mechanical Engineering or Electrical Engineering does. I know this is true in Canada, and have heard this is also true in the US, but I'm not sure about other countries. They're all skilled nonetheless.
  - Daviey 10y ago
    I couldn't disagree more, i'm based in the UK.. but I've worked internationally with engineers varying from without college education to people with PhD's... both are competent in their area of expertise and are right in calling themselves engineers.
    - distances 10y ago
      In some areas use of the title "Engineer" is regulated. I'm not claiming what's right or wrong on this, just stating how things are. From Wikipedia [1]: "The practice of engineering in the UK is not a regulated profession [...] In Continental Europe, Latin America, Turkey and elsewhere the title is limited by law to people with an engineering degree and the use of the title by others is illegal." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer#Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer#Regulation
- lacampbell 10y ago
  I confess I don't really know what a systems engineer is. I know a Sysadmins as "lifesavers who can deal with the monstrosity of modern operating systems and communication between them". But never heard of a Systems Engineer.