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> The UK will smartly make some concessions that especially punish the districts that made this happen (No one will really talk about this). The districts that

> The UK will smartly make some concessions that especially punish the districts that made this happen (No one will really talk about this). The districts that voted for it?

Wildgoose 10y ago
Governments can't "punish" Parliamentary Constituencies so presumably he means most of England outside of London along with the whole of the country of Wales. Which just goes to show how ludicrous the assertion is - all the Parliamentary talk right now is about desperately trying to connect/reconnect to the voters in these areas (who remember are the MAJORITY of the voters in those areas). The only people who will be punished will be those who try to punish others. The former Chancellor of the Excheqeur (Finance Minister) talked about a "punishment" budget if the people voted to leave the EU. Please note I said "former" - he was sacked.
- mcintyre1994 10y ago
  They don't need to explicitly punish areas like Wales, just treat them like they have been treating them - business as usual without EU Regional Development funding will be devastating. Nobody's talking any more about having vast sums of money available to reallocate, so unless we're cutting somewhere else I don't see how that vast EU pool is being replaced.
  - _delirium 10y ago
    Same is likely to happen in Cornwall. The local MPs are pushing for the UK government to replace the EU structural adjustment funds with equivalent amounts of UK funding, but it's now looking very unlikely that this will happen.
sgt101 10y ago
That was everywhere in England and Wales apart from London? Interesting low sterling rewards these places... it makes it cheaper to onshore work to them, and it lowers the actual cost of providing things to them (social security and health)
- jamessb 10y ago
  That was everywhere in England and Wales apart from London? It depends on the scale you look at. Looking at the regional count results, only three of the 12 regions (Greater London, Northern Ireland, and Scotland) voted to remain, and the electorate in these regions makes up 23% of the total. But looking at the voting areas, 119 of the 382 (i.e. 32%) areas voted to Remain, and 37% of the electorate live in a voting area that had a majority for remain [0]. These voting areas are mostly in Scotland or NI, but there are isolated pockets around major Northern cities (Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, and Leeds), and the cluster centered on London reaches across much of the South (North East to Cambridge, West to Cardiff, and South to Brighton). See this map [1], a map in which the voting areas are scaled in proportion to their population [2]. [0]: I calculated this using the results from the Electoral Commission at http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/elections-and-referendums/upcoming-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/electorate-and-count-information http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-su... [1]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_Kingdom_EU_referendum_2016_area_results_2-tone.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_Kingdom_EU_re... [2]: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun...

> The UK will smartly make some concessions that especially punish the districts that made this happen (No one will really talk about this). The districts that voted for it?

Wildgoose 10y ago

Governments can't "punish" Parliamentary Constituencies so presumably he means most of England outside of London along with the whole of the country of Wales. Which just goes to show how ludicrous the assertion is - all the Parliamentary talk right now is about desperately trying to connect/reconnect to the voters in these areas (who remember are the MAJORITY of the voters in those areas). The only people who will be punished will be those who try to punish others. The former Chancellor of the Excheqeur (Finance Minister) talked about a "punishment" budget if the people voted to leave the EU. Please note I said "former" - he was sacked.

mcintyre1994 10y ago
They don't need to explicitly punish areas like Wales, just treat them like they have been treating them - business as usual without EU Regional Development funding will be devastating. Nobody's talking any more about having vast sums of money available to reallocate, so unless we're cutting somewhere else I don't see how that vast EU pool is being replaced.
- _delirium 10y ago
  Same is likely to happen in Cornwall. The local MPs are pushing for the UK government to replace the EU structural adjustment funds with equivalent amounts of UK funding, but it's now looking very unlikely that this will happen.

sgt101 10y ago

That was everywhere in England and Wales apart from London? Interesting low sterling rewards these places... it makes it cheaper to onshore work to them, and it lowers the actual cost of providing things to them (social security and health)

jamessb 10y ago
That was everywhere in England and Wales apart from London? It depends on the scale you look at. Looking at the regional count results, only three of the 12 regions (Greater London, Northern Ireland, and Scotland) voted to remain, and the electorate in these regions makes up 23% of the total. But looking at the voting areas, 119 of the 382 (i.e. 32%) areas voted to Remain, and 37% of the electorate live in a voting area that had a majority for remain [0]. These voting areas are mostly in Scotland or NI, but there are isolated pockets around major Northern cities (Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, and Leeds), and the cluster centered on London reaches across much of the South (North East to Cambridge, West to Cardiff, and South to Brighton). See this map [1], a map in which the voting areas are scaled in proportion to their population [2]. [0]: I calculated this using the results from the Electoral Commission at http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/elections-and-referendums/upcoming-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/electorate-and-count-information http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-su... [1]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_Kingdom_EU_referendum_2016_area_results_2-tone.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_Kingdom_EU_re... [2]: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun...