3 ms·
Presumably they meant airbag deployment crashes in Teslas. We can estimate the absolute number from Tesla's press release in December stating that 1.3 billion
by semi-extrinsic 10y ago
Presumably they meant airbag deployment crashes in Teslas.
We can estimate the absolute number from Tesla's press release in December stating that 1.3 billion miles have been driven on Autopilot, while the NHTSA report states the accidents they count occur 0.8 times per million miles.
So in that case it's data from about 1000 crashes in the Autopilot case, and more in the non-Autopilot case. Which tells us that the statistics should be good enough (anything else would be a major scandal).
However, that is not what they are comparing! As the NHTSA report states in footnote 21, they're not actually comparing Autopilot miles to normal driving. They are comparing crash rates in vehicles before and after Autopilot was installed in those vehicles. That muddies the waters quite a bit in my opinion, especially when they don't tell us how significant this decrease is. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I'm also not very confident that it is a causal effect, as opposed to just a correlation.
Here is a PDF link to the NHTSA report, since TFA only links to a Scribd (thus unusable) version.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2016/INCLA-PE16007-7876.PDF https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2016/INCLA-PE16007-7876.PDF
- jayjay71 10y agoSo they're comparing miles driven manually before a certain date to miles driven manually and automatically after a certain date? It certainly implies that Autopilot is safer, but why not separate it properly (Autopilot vs manual) and give us far more accurate information? It just seems...odd.
- slavik81 10y agoComparing all miles both before and after neatly sidesteps the problem that the autopilot only works on relatively good roads.
- jayjay71 10y agoEven so, Tesla should be able to tell whether or not you're driving on a highway with all of the data they collect. Why not compare that data to the Autopilot data? This report wasn't made by Tesla, it was made by the NHTSA. So why not do a more meaningful comparison? It's weird.