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Amazon actually didn't have much competition at a key point in it's growth, i.e. just after the dot com crash. Amazon survived, many did not and Amazon then had

Amazon actually didn't have much competition at a key point in it's growth, i.e. just after the dot com crash. Amazon survived, many did not and Amazon then had a few years to cement their dominance in the online shopping space. Amazon is also very different from Uber in that it a) went public earlier and b) didn't need huge outside cash injections like Uber and c) Wasn't making a huge gross loss on sales like people claim Uber is. I believe Uber has already lost more money than Amazon has in it's entire existence! http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2013/12/18/amzn-chart_0.jpg http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/emb...

beambot 10y ago
> Amazon actually didn't have much competition at a key point in it's growth Except for every single brick & mortar store -- which has always been Amazon's biggest "competitor".
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  Brick and mortar stores were (and still are) extremely weak competition. That's why Amazon utterly crushed many of them and continues to do so. Not just small mom and pops either. Borders, which at one point was one of the largest bookstore chains in the nation, shuttered its doors because it didn't switch to an online model fast enough. Barnes and Noble at some point was in deep trouble as well.
  - beambot 10y ago
    Last numbers I saw had online sales across all categories at less than 10% of total retail sales. Hardly "weak competition." https://ycharts.com/indicators/ecommerce_sales_as_percent_retail_sales https://ycharts.com/indicators/ecommerce_sales_as_percent_re... (Note: that growth is still a good reason to be bullish about Amazon!)
    - busterarm 10y ago
      If you look into the indicators that fall into the Retail and Services sales category, there are extremely big ticket items and high-volume items that aren't sold in high volume or at all due to regulation. All auto sales, gas purchases, alcohol & tobacco, heavy industrial equipment (commercial farm equipment, etc) are included in that category. Online sales only being 10% of that still probably looks massively outsized if you're drilling down to B&M clothing & electronics purchases. I haven't made a B&M retail purchase any more times than I can count on one hand since 2004.
      - beambot 10y ago
        Your spending habits may not be representative of the greater population.
        busterarm 10y ago
        And that last statement about my spending habits is tangential to everything I said previous to it.
        beambot 10y ago
        > I haven't made a B&M retail purchase any more times than I can count on one hand since 2004
jayjay71 10y ago
> (Amazon) didn't need huge outside cash injections like Uber Amazon and Uber are very different companies, but this wildly oversimplifies the financing of Amazon. Amazon has taken on many billions of dollars in debt over the years in order to operate. If you add it all up, Amazon has taken (in very different terms) about as much money as Uber. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-02/amazon-sells-6-billion-in-biggest-bond-deal-for-online-retailer https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-02/amazon-se...

beambot 10y ago

> Amazon actually didn't have much competition at a key point in it's growth Except for every single brick & mortar store -- which has always been Amazon's biggest "competitor".

enraged_camel 10y ago
Brick and mortar stores were (and still are) extremely weak competition. That's why Amazon utterly crushed many of them and continues to do so. Not just small mom and pops either. Borders, which at one point was one of the largest bookstore chains in the nation, shuttered its doors because it didn't switch to an online model fast enough. Barnes and Noble at some point was in deep trouble as well.
- beambot 10y ago
  Last numbers I saw had online sales across all categories at less than 10% of total retail sales. Hardly "weak competition." https://ycharts.com/indicators/ecommerce_sales_as_percent_retail_sales https://ycharts.com/indicators/ecommerce_sales_as_percent_re... (Note: that growth is still a good reason to be bullish about Amazon!)
  - busterarm 10y ago
    If you look into the indicators that fall into the Retail and Services sales category, there are extremely big ticket items and high-volume items that aren't sold in high volume or at all due to regulation. All auto sales, gas purchases, alcohol & tobacco, heavy industrial equipment (commercial farm equipment, etc) are included in that category. Online sales only being 10% of that still probably looks massively outsized if you're drilling down to B&M clothing & electronics purchases. I haven't made a B&M retail purchase any more times than I can count on one hand since 2004.
    - beambot 10y ago
      Your spending habits may not be representative of the greater population.
      - busterarm 10y ago
        And that last statement about my spending habits is tangential to everything I said previous to it.
        beambot 10y ago
        > I haven't made a B&M retail purchase any more times than I can count on one hand since 2004

jayjay71 10y ago

> (Amazon) didn't need huge outside cash injections like Uber Amazon and Uber are very different companies, but this wildly oversimplifies the financing of Amazon. Amazon has taken on many billions of dollars in debt over the years in order to operate. If you add it all up, Amazon has taken (in very different terms) about as much money as Uber. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-02/amazon-sells-6-billion-in-biggest-bond-deal-for-online-retailer https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-02/amazon-se...