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I am too dump to get through this hipster's mental constructs. Segregation is a fundamental principle in societies and even nature in general. Likes tend to st
by lngnmn 10y ago
I am too dump to get through this hipster's mental constructs.
Segregation is a fundamental principle in societies and even nature in general. Likes tend to stay with likes, likes attracts likes. Culture, age, social or professional specialization there are countless ways everything segregates. And segregation and specialization is good. In the social context we see castes and chinatowns since the beginning of time, and in the biological context we see tissues - a homogeneous community of specialized cells.
The utopists (and mere naive idiots) who believe in some voluntarily unsegregated society of brothers and sisters, which never emerged by itself in the history of mankind, are, well, idiots. Even forced unsegregated social groups does not last and always has tensions and issues.
So, why don't we just accept the fact that some academic humanists and social theorists are ignorant, naive self-deluded dreamers, who are ignoring certain aspects of actual reality.
So called self-segregation is a non-term. It is a default, biological norm. Species who do not live in packs and families are self-segregated. Even inside the family there are specialization and segregation by age. What these hipsters are talking about?
- swsieber 10y agoThey are talking being able to segregate yourselves via the internet - local segregation, while a real thing, still exposes you to a variety of view points. Self-segregation via the internet exposes you to a pool 1000x (very conservative here) or more than what's available locally, without too much effort. It's a problem of both how specialized you can get and how easily it can be achieved. You could compare normal/traditional self-segregation to approximating a data set. Self-segregation is akin to overfitting a data set.
- hx87 10y agoSegregation can be fine...as long as governance follows. Unfortunately we don't have entities like "Federation of Cities" or "Rural Alliance", or "Republic of r/The_Donald" to provide governance or services, so for the time being we're stuck with each other.
- kyleschiller 10y agoIf every biological norm is a non-term, we might as well stop talking about desire and fear while we're at it. I buy you argument that self-segregation is in some ways our default, but this doesn't mean we can't exacerbate, and potentially ameliorate it, with technology. Sometimes this has to do with completely new mediums, but even the specific implementation of existing platforms can have a tremendous impact. Reddit, for example, is completely capable of designing an algorithm that clusters articles by viewpoint and penalizes new posts similar to too many existing ones.
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- che_shirecat 10y agoI'm curious how you went from the observation of segregation as a characteristic of nature to the value judgement "segregation and specialization is good" Your entire argument is a naturalistic fallacy -> just because segregation is a human tendency doesn't make it the ideal state; inequality is a human tendency, as is crime. sidenote: drop the superiority complex, labeling those who don't agree with you "naive idiots" and "hipsters?" is just lazy and close minded
- qntty 10y agoMaybe you need to accept the segregation between people who care about these things and yourself?
- disordinary 10y agoIt's a social evolution, sexism, racism, and homophobia are all much less accepted now than they were in the past. Eventually we will get rid of these bad and destructive traits of segregation based on nothing more than looks. Unfortunately that time is not now.