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Oh god, /another/ Apache fast data analytics platform. Apache is like a powerhouse in creating these short-lived projects that force companies to get the most

by arnon 10y ago

Oh god, /another/ Apache fast data analytics platform. Apache is like a powerhouse in creating these short-lived projects that force companies to get the most expensive, esoteric talents.

batoure 10y ago
kudu is meant to be a file system replacement for HDFS kudu::hdfs as spark::pig Additionally unlike most pieces of the Hadoop ecosystem it is implemented in pure c++ instead of java.
- catawbasam 10y ago
  Fine. But all the other myriad Apache projects in this space were also different! better! The sentiment in the previous post still applies.
  - batoure 10y ago
    Actually no, there is currently no alternate project to HDFS. The only comparable compatible platform for the ecosystem is MapR-FS which is closed source. Kudu is an interesting experiment, c++ introduces a level of memory management and performance in a space where the JVM typically falls down. Alternately here is a list of the storage engines for MySQL InnoDB MRG_MYISAM BLACKHOLE CSV MEMORY FEDERATED ARCHIVE MyISAM Hadoop used to just have HDFS... now it also has Kudu
    - arnon 10y ago
      That's not a fair comparison
buryat 10y ago
All big-data related projects were donated to Apache by companies and not developed by ASF and they're still active https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category
- vorg 10y ago
  Not just big-data projects but many other projects move from companies to the ASF. Apache Groovy was previously developed by 2 programmers and a project manager on VMware's dime, until they dropped it. But to say VMware "donated" Groovy to the ASF would be inaccurate though.
ihodes 10y ago
I have definitely have shared that sentiment. However, Apache didn't create this project; it's from Cloudera originally, and they've got a pretty good track record. In this case, Kudu is more of a database/store on top of which analytics products (for example, this is a best-in-class engine for Impala, allowing fast read/write) can run. I wouldn't quite say it's like HDFS, which is more of a document store/distributed file-system.

by arnon 10y ago

Oh god, /another/ Apache fast data analytics platform. Apache is like a powerhouse in creating these short-lived projects that force companies to get the most expensive, esoteric talents.

batoure 10y ago

kudu is meant to be a file system replacement for HDFS kudu::hdfs as spark::pig Additionally unlike most pieces of the Hadoop ecosystem it is implemented in pure c++ instead of java.

catawbasam 10y ago
Fine. But all the other myriad Apache projects in this space were also different! better! The sentiment in the previous post still applies.
- batoure 10y ago
  Actually no, there is currently no alternate project to HDFS. The only comparable compatible platform for the ecosystem is MapR-FS which is closed source. Kudu is an interesting experiment, c++ introduces a level of memory management and performance in a space where the JVM typically falls down. Alternately here is a list of the storage engines for MySQL InnoDB MRG_MYISAM BLACKHOLE CSV MEMORY FEDERATED ARCHIVE MyISAM Hadoop used to just have HDFS... now it also has Kudu
  - arnon 10y ago
    That's not a fair comparison

buryat 10y ago

All big-data related projects were donated to Apache by companies and not developed by ASF and they're still active https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category

vorg 10y ago
Not just big-data projects but many other projects move from companies to the ASF. Apache Groovy was previously developed by 2 programmers and a project manager on VMware's dime, until they dropped it. But to say VMware "donated" Groovy to the ASF would be inaccurate though.

ihodes 10y ago

I have definitely have shared that sentiment. However, Apache didn't create this project; it's from Cloudera originally, and they've got a pretty good track record. In this case, Kudu is more of a database/store on top of which analytics products (for example, this is a best-in-class engine for Impala, allowing fast read/write) can run. I wouldn't quite say it's like HDFS, which is more of a document store/distributed file-system.