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I will ask this again. Why is nobody here interested in building one app that does it all? Nobody wants to have 100 apps on their phones, or create 1000 online

I will ask this again. Why is nobody here interested in building one app that does it all? Nobody wants to have 100 apps on their phones, or create 1000 online accounts. Such an app would easily make most tech companies obsolete. What part do people not understand?

gcb0 10y ago
not sure if trolling or not... but good luck having your bank app developed by the same standards as the Facebook app protected by the same password.
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  I'm serious. What's the problem?
lucasverra 10y ago
Well, at least 2-3 years ago FB took the opposite direction by splitting FB app from messenger app.
Markoff 10y ago
we have it, is just not app but it's called Android not sure what's the difference between having million apps and functions hidden within one app instead of having them separated between more apps which also helps with diversifying risks and it's easier to organize the thing is, people in West actually value their privacy sort off, while people in China are not even offered this option at table, so you end up with one gov approved app which they are monitoring and censoring
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  By not depending on privacy, they benefit from much better user experience. I think that's a great trade-off.
Freak_NL 10y ago
People here are probably on the cautious side of centralising all of their online identities and activities into one app. Our privacy is under enough threat as it is. Besides, I don't want to migrate everything I do online to a smartphone (it would have to be Android or IOS then, because that's all they support of course — vendor lock-in is not so great for innovation) or a sanctioned PC OS. In fact, most of the time I don't even want to run some service's software, except for those that run in the sandbox that is my web browser (i.e., websites and web applications). Actually, all things considered we already have that one app that does it all; the web browser.
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  I think that privacy is unsustainable. I don't think we should strive to protect it. We should work toward enabling people to live fully transparent lives. When I say "app", I mean all software including websites. The main problem to tackle is not a technical one, but a design one. It's with the UX fragmentation that I have a problem. A native mega-app that contains mini-apps with different UX is not better than what we have today. The web browser is even worse than native apps, as there's not even a minimal set of guidelines that help unify the web experience.
  - Freak_NL 10y ago
    > We should work toward enabling people to live fully transparent lives. Undesirable for most, harmful for many, and lethal for some. I live in a fairly tolerant society as far as Earth standards go, but some things I will only share with a select few. Should my medical records be open to anyone? My banking statements? My sexual preferences and fantasies? That's absurd. It would ostracise a lot of people even in a nominally free society. In some less enlightened jurisdictions some of these will get you executed or lynched (ask any gay person in a Muslim country, or anyone critical of their government in a repressive regime). Yet I might want to chat about some topics with like minded individuals (again, assume for the sake of argument that all of it is legal in my jurisdiction) under a pseudonym or anonymity; the internet is a wonderful place where this is possible — partly because I'm not doing everything through one megacorp's 'app'. I'd like to keep it that way. > […] as there's not even a minimal set of guidelines that help unify the web experience. Good. Our culture thrives by diversity. Innovation stagnates without it. We standardise where necessary for mutual benefit and cooperation (e.g., HTML, CSS, and JavaScript; Unicode; or accessibility standards), and often we will imitate or copy what works (e.g., the 'hamburger menu', or sensible typography) but that doesn't mean every site or service or application should look the same and connect to the same set of identity providers. You present a very radical viewpoint, and I applaud you for your fervour, but I suspect you are either very young, not a developer, or you haven't experienced the downside of the monopolistic behaviour of the world's Apples, Googles, and Microsofts yet.

gcb0 10y ago

not sure if trolling or not... but good luck having your bank app developed by the same standards as the Facebook app protected by the same password.

miguelrochefort 10y ago
I'm serious. What's the problem?

lucasverra 10y ago

Well, at least 2-3 years ago FB took the opposite direction by splitting FB app from messenger app.

Markoff 10y ago

we have it, is just not app but it's called Android not sure what's the difference between having million apps and functions hidden within one app instead of having them separated between more apps which also helps with diversifying risks and it's easier to organize the thing is, people in West actually value their privacy sort off, while people in China are not even offered this option at table, so you end up with one gov approved app which they are monitoring and censoring

miguelrochefort 10y ago
By not depending on privacy, they benefit from much better user experience. I think that's a great trade-off.

Freak_NL 10y ago

People here are probably on the cautious side of centralising all of their online identities and activities into one app. Our privacy is under enough threat as it is. Besides, I don't want to migrate everything I do online to a smartphone (it would have to be Android or IOS then, because that's all they support of course — vendor lock-in is not so great for innovation) or a sanctioned PC OS. In fact, most of the time I don't even want to run some service's software, except for those that run in the sandbox that is my web browser (i.e., websites and web applications). Actually, all things considered we already have that one app that does it all; the web browser.

miguelrochefort 10y ago
I think that privacy is unsustainable. I don't think we should strive to protect it. We should work toward enabling people to live fully transparent lives. When I say "app", I mean all software including websites. The main problem to tackle is not a technical one, but a design one. It's with the UX fragmentation that I have a problem. A native mega-app that contains mini-apps with different UX is not better than what we have today. The web browser is even worse than native apps, as there's not even a minimal set of guidelines that help unify the web experience.
- Freak_NL 10y ago
  > We should work toward enabling people to live fully transparent lives. Undesirable for most, harmful for many, and lethal for some. I live in a fairly tolerant society as far as Earth standards go, but some things I will only share with a select few. Should my medical records be open to anyone? My banking statements? My sexual preferences and fantasies? That's absurd. It would ostracise a lot of people even in a nominally free society. In some less enlightened jurisdictions some of these will get you executed or lynched (ask any gay person in a Muslim country, or anyone critical of their government in a repressive regime). Yet I might want to chat about some topics with like minded individuals (again, assume for the sake of argument that all of it is legal in my jurisdiction) under a pseudonym or anonymity; the internet is a wonderful place where this is possible — partly because I'm not doing everything through one megacorp's 'app'. I'd like to keep it that way. > […] as there's not even a minimal set of guidelines that help unify the web experience. Good. Our culture thrives by diversity. Innovation stagnates without it. We standardise where necessary for mutual benefit and cooperation (e.g., HTML, CSS, and JavaScript; Unicode; or accessibility standards), and often we will imitate or copy what works (e.g., the 'hamburger menu', or sensible typography) but that doesn't mean every site or service or application should look the same and connect to the same set of identity providers. You present a very radical viewpoint, and I applaud you for your fervour, but I suspect you are either very young, not a developer, or you haven't experienced the downside of the monopolistic behaviour of the world's Apples, Googles, and Microsofts yet.