> core base of users and please could they focus on them instead of the web people who are much more fickle and moving already. Ahhh, I see what's going on now

> core base of users and please could they focus on them instead of the web people who are much more fickle and moving already. Ahhh, I see what's going on now. You may be vastly underestimating the size of variety of the Python userbase. This is one of the absolute most popular languages on the planet. Your science subset is but one of many. And it's not even the biggest if we're talking sheer user counts. Python must be steered for the good of the majority of the userbase. Not just for vegabook. The fact that you described them as "useless" to me just speaks to someone being impatient and dismissive of a ton of excellent work by the contributors. These changes weren't made just for the hell of it. Particularly the Unicode example that you gave above. If you want help understanding the rationale behind some of these changes, feel free to ask here. Someone with more familiarity will chime in and help clear up the confusion or angst.