"[1] I can't find drinking-by-income data, but anecdotally" Wow, your "non-reference reference" is a brilliant way to criticize that my comment was not based o

"[1] I can't find drinking-by-income data, but anecdotally" Wow, your "non-reference reference" is a brilliant way to criticize that my comment was not based on factual reference! I didn't say that 'drinking and smoking' is only a problem in 'poor neighbourhoods'. So your comment is not relevant. In fact, I didn't even refer to 'poor neighbourhoods', I indicated 'Aboriginal communities' in particular - where the problems are systematic and acute. What is 'laughable' is that anyone would consider that the total social break-down in Aboriginal communities - and the issues that some kids in wealthy areas are remotely related, or should be treated the same way. In Scandinavian countries, as I mentioned, there is no 'taboo' about drinking. It's 'not positive' but nevertheless 'socially acceptable' to be a kid, drinking every so often. A 'drunk 14 year old' is nothing to make a huge fuss about. Of course, 'a community of drunk 14 year olds' is. In America - there would indeed be much fuss over a single incidence of fairly underage drinking. It's not socially accepted. There are basically zero middle or upper class areas in America wherein 42% of 14-16 year year olds have been 'drunk in the last month' and also none where 25% of 14-16 year olds are smoking. In America overall, the data (which was trivial to find) has it at about 5% [1] (using average of 8th grade and 10th grade). As it would stand America already has lower teen drunkenness than Iceland even after Icelands 'amazing social program'. Iceland before: 41%, after: 7%. America now: 5%. Whoops! Also - smoking is definitely a much greater issue among lower economic classes, this is consistent in most advanced countries. Drinking - it's a mixed bag. College kids drink the most of any group. [1] https://responsibility.org/get-the-facts/research/statistics/underage-drinking-statistics/ https://responsibility.org/get-the-facts/research/statistics...