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That was the tipping point for me. How readily, without reason / evidence / proof, that it was debunked by the media. I am not a person who jumps to conclusions

That was the tipping point for me. How readily, without reason / evidence / proof, that it was debunked by the media. I am not a person who jumps to conclusions. I draw conclusions based on facts. But when they can say that it is 'debunked' without facts, while actual material exists that points to, at the very least, shady material surrounding it...then I have not choice but to question things. I come to the HN community because anything note worthy is highly scrutinized here. I appreciate that about HN and it is the only reason I even bring the topic to the table here.

ebcode 10y ago
I suggest you do your own research. Download John Podesta's emails from WikiLeaks and look through them, and search for the words "pizza", "pasta", and "cheese". The legitimacy I see is that the words "pizza", "pasta", and "cheese" in those emails were absolutely being used as codewords. What those codewords actually meant to their authors could still be up for debate (depending on your level of skepticism), but they make absolutely no sense as non-codewords in the excerpt, "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta." The word "pizza" in those emails was being used as a codeword for something. That was enough legitimacy for me. [Edit: Just re-read your question, and you seem to be searching for an "un-biased" and "credible expert" to weigh in. In this case/investigation, I don't believe such an appeal to authority will work (because the authorities, such as we have in this country, are complicit). You have to become your own expert.]
- jakeogh 10y ago
  Example from: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 "Hi John, The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus?" The Podestas' taste in 'art' is horrible in every way. A mild example: http://i.imgur.com/PMVvrRy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PMVvrRy.jpg

ebcode 10y ago

I suggest you do your own research. Download John Podesta's emails from WikiLeaks and look through them, and search for the words "pizza", "pasta", and "cheese". The legitimacy I see is that the words "pizza", "pasta", and "cheese" in those emails were absolutely being used as codewords. What those codewords actually meant to their authors could still be up for debate (depending on your level of skepticism), but they make absolutely no sense as non-codewords in the excerpt, "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta." The word "pizza" in those emails was being used as a codeword for something. That was enough legitimacy for me. [Edit: Just re-read your question, and you seem to be searching for an "un-biased" and "credible expert" to weigh in. In this case/investigation, I don't believe such an appeal to authority will work (because the authorities, such as we have in this country, are complicit). You have to become your own expert.]

jakeogh 10y ago
Example from: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 "Hi John, The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus?" The Podestas' taste in 'art' is horrible in every way. A mild example: http://i.imgur.com/PMVvrRy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PMVvrRy.jpg