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False. It cannot since it has too look up the vote status for (logged in users).

by swsieber 10y ago

choward 10y ago
What?
flashman 10y ago
I dunno man, I think I'm going to trust the former Reddit admin (/u/raldi)
- Strom 10y ago
  Blind trust in such a simply verifiable case is quite naive. You can easily open up the front page of HN as a logged in user and see that it contains information about which storeies you've voted for and which you've flagged. On top of that, you can click "hide" to hide stories. These will only be hidden for your specific account, not for every person who loads the front page. What's more, the go-to call-to-action by HN admins during really popular stories is to have people log out, because logged in users don't get cached results. Have a look at the comment by HN admin dang on the Trump winning story. [1] The key part being "please log out to read HN today, unless you want to comment. Then we can serve you from cache". [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201
  - justinlaster 10y ago
    That's not the same thing as showing different results per user. It's just tacking on the user's operations when it renders out the front page. They're two completely different operations, with completely different complexities behind them. The "hide" feature is not analogous to what reddit is doing.
    - raldi 10y ago
      Exactly. It's the difference between "Look up the first 100 people in this phone book not named Justin" and "Look up the 100 Justins that come first alphabetically across these 100 phone books"
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pavel_lishin 10y ago
Okay; but that's just looking up the current vote stats on the same set of stories that would be displayed to anyone at that time. When I go to reddit.com, I see a list of stories from subreddits I've personally selected.
- Strom 10y ago
  Not necessarily true. HN has a "hide" feature for example, and if you hide some stories you will get a different top 30.
  - sgift 10y ago
    As far as I know hide doesn't change the order, it just skips some results. This is a far simpler problem than merging multiple sources of information into one result.

False. It cannot since it has too look up the vote status for (logged in users).

choward 10y ago

What?

flashman 10y ago

I dunno man, I think I'm going to trust the former Reddit admin (/u/raldi)

Strom 10y ago
Blind trust in such a simply verifiable case is quite naive. You can easily open up the front page of HN as a logged in user and see that it contains information about which storeies you've voted for and which you've flagged. On top of that, you can click "hide" to hide stories. These will only be hidden for your specific account, not for every person who loads the front page. What's more, the go-to call-to-action by HN admins during really popular stories is to have people log out, because logged in users don't get cached results. Have a look at the comment by HN admin dang on the Trump winning story. [1] The key part being "please log out to read HN today, unless you want to comment. Then we can serve you from cache". [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201
- justinlaster 10y ago
  That's not the same thing as showing different results per user. It's just tacking on the user's operations when it renders out the front page. They're two completely different operations, with completely different complexities behind them. The "hide" feature is not analogous to what reddit is doing.
  - raldi 10y ago
    Exactly. It's the difference between "Look up the first 100 people in this phone book not named Justin" and "Look up the 100 Justins that come first alphabetically across these 100 phone books"
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pavel_lishin 10y ago

Okay; but that's just looking up the current vote stats on the same set of stories that would be displayed to anyone at that time. When I go to reddit.com, I see a list of stories from subreddits I've personally selected.

Strom 10y ago
Not necessarily true. HN has a "hide" feature for example, and if you hide some stories you will get a different top 30.
- sgift 10y ago
  As far as I know hide doesn't change the order, it just skips some results. This is a far simpler problem than merging multiple sources of information into one result.